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What is your religion or lack thereof?
Christain/jewish/other Jehovah/Yahweh centered religion 13%  13%  [ 7 ]
Muslim 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
Buddhist 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
My own personal religion creation (please explain) 8%  8%  [ 4 ]
Wiccan 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Agnostic 17%  17%  [ 9 ]
Atheist 37%  37%  [ 19 ]
Other (please specify) 17%  17%  [ 9 ]
Total votes : 52

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01 Apr 2012, 12:30 pm

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I have no problem with athesits in general it's the strong atheists that I have a problem with who want to kill those who have faith.


Strong atheists believe there is no god.
Wanting to murder human beings is not a part of it.


Strong atheists like Joesph Stalin did kill peole for their faith though.


Again, no. He killed people who stood in his way. The wealthy churches and their priests that had the people's ears and hearts were dangerous to his goals, so anyone who would not conform (at least publicly) and STFU had to be gotten rid of.

I am certainly not willing to kill anyone for my utmost conviction that fairies are fiction. Most atheists feel about as strongly about gods as that.


Yet killing them because of their faith is something that should be above atheists I always assumed they where against doing such things read the history of the USSR and China under Maos rule the religious suffered the most for their faith.



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01 Apr 2012, 12:31 pm

Joker wrote:
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Joker wrote:
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I have no problem with athesits in general it's the strong atheists that I have a problem with who want to kill those who have faith.


Strong atheists believe there is no god.
Wanting to murder human beings is not a part of it.


Strong atheists like Joesph Stalin did kill peole for their faith though.


Again, no. He killed people who stood in his way. The wealthy churches and their priests that had the people's ears and hearts were dangerous to his goals, so anyone who would not conform (at least publicly) and STFU had to be gotten rid of.

I am certainly not willing to kill anyone for my utmost conviction that fairies are fiction. Most atheists feel about as strongly about gods as that.


Yet killing them because of their faith is something that should be above atheists I always assumed they where against doing such things read the history of the USSR and China under Maos rule the religious suffered the most for their faith.


You need to re-read rather than claiming the same factual falsehoods incessantly.


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01 Apr 2012, 12:34 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:
Joker wrote:
NewlyHuman wrote:
Joker wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
Joker wrote:
I have no problem with athesits in general it's the strong atheists that I have a problem with who want to kill those who have faith.


Strong atheists believe there is no god.
Wanting to murder human beings is not a part of it.


Strong atheists like Joesph Stalin did kill peole for their faith though.


Again, no. He killed people who stood in his way. The wealthy churches and their priests that had the people's ears and hearts were dangerous to his goals, so anyone who would not conform (at least publicly) and STFU had to be gotten rid of.

I am certainly not willing to kill anyone for my utmost conviction that fairies are fiction. Most atheists feel about as strongly about gods as that.


Yet killing them because of their faith is something that should be above atheists I always assumed they where against doing such things read the history of the USSR and China under Maos rule the religious suffered the most for their faith.


You need to re-read rather than claiming the same factual falsehoods incessantly.


They didn't kill them for a religious reason they wanted to get rid fo the religious to have political power but that doesn't change the body count.



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01 Apr 2012, 12:35 pm

Joker wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
Joker wrote:
NewlyHuman wrote:
Joker wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
Joker wrote:
I have no problem with athesits in general it's the strong atheists that I have a problem with who want to kill those who have faith.


Strong atheists believe there is no god.
Wanting to murder human beings is not a part of it.


Strong atheists like Joesph Stalin did kill peole for their faith though.


Again, no. He killed people who stood in his way. The wealthy churches and their priests that had the people's ears and hearts were dangerous to his goals, so anyone who would not conform (at least publicly) and STFU had to be gotten rid of.

I am certainly not willing to kill anyone for my utmost conviction that fairies are fiction. Most atheists feel about as strongly about gods as that.


Yet killing them because of their faith is something that should be above atheists I always assumed they where against doing such things read the history of the USSR and China under Maos rule the religious suffered the most for their faith.


You need to re-read rather than claiming the same factual falsehoods incessantly.


They didn't kill them for a religious reason they wanted to get rid fo the religious to have political power but that doesn't change the body count.


It changes the nature of your claim- that being that the body count is related to a tyrant's ATHEISM.


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01 Apr 2012, 12:36 pm

In the spirit of the OP, Church of the rainbow coloured unicorn.

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Seriously, I'm agnostic. I wouldn't have much faith in philosophy and my own reasoning and critical thinking abilities if I wasn't.


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01 Apr 2012, 12:36 pm

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I am a Tarvuist, the one true faith for the enlightened. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a false icon


Vigilans I would like to know what is a Tarvuist? If you don't mind me asking.


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01 Apr 2012, 12:38 pm

It's not a claim but a history of prosseion that people have suffer for any kind of religion what ever it may be by strong atheist tyrants in the past.



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01 Apr 2012, 12:38 pm

Kjas wrote:
In the spirit of the OP, Church of the rainbow coloured unicorn.

:roll:

Seriously, I'm agnostic. I wouldn't have much faith in philosophy and my own reasoning and critical thinking abilities if I wasn't.


But even though you admit you don't know you can still believe either way.



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01 Apr 2012, 12:39 pm

snapcap wrote:
Kjas wrote:
In the spirit of the OP, Church of the rainbow coloured unicorn.

:roll:

Seriously, I'm agnostic. I wouldn't have much faith in philosophy and my own reasoning and critical thinking abilities if I wasn't.


But even though you admit you don't know you can still believe either way.


:lol:



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01 Apr 2012, 12:40 pm

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They didn't kill them for a religious reason they wanted to get rid fo the religious to have political power but that doesn't change the body count.


Ah, so you think that we think "atheist = perfect person"? Atheists are as human as anyone else, and can potentially be as power-hungry or ruthless as anyone. But to suggest they do stuff because they are motivated by their atheism is the question here. Religious people have for sure done horrid stuff specifically to spread their particular strain of religion. They may have instead done it for some other convenient reason if they didn't have that excuse, we may never know, but the fact that it has been a valid excuse is the problem.



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01 Apr 2012, 12:43 pm

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They didn't kill them for a religious reason they wanted to get rid fo the religious to have political power but that doesn't change the body count.


Ah, so you think that we think "atheist = perfect person"? Atheists are as human as anyone else, and can potentially be as power-hungry or ruthless as anyone. But to suggest they do stuff because they are motivated by their atheism is the question here. Religious people have for sure done horrid stuff specifically to spread their particular strain of religion. They may have instead done it for some other convenient reason if they didn't have that excuse, we may never know, but the fact that it has been a valid excuse is the problem.


Thank you that's how they come off as some time like their better then you because they don't follow a religion and often put down those who do at least I can admit the evils my faith has done.



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01 Apr 2012, 12:47 pm

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In the spirit of the OP, Church of the rainbow coloured unicorn.

:roll:

Seriously, I'm agnostic. I wouldn't have much faith in philosophy and my own reasoning and critical thinking abilities if I wasn't.


But even though you admit you don't know you can still believe either way.


Isn't that the point? You can neither prove, nor disprove it, by either reason or perception, both of them fail on this count, so I choose a neutral ground. All I know is that I don't know :lol:


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01 Apr 2012, 12:49 pm

Kjas wrote:
snapcap wrote:
Kjas wrote:
In the spirit of the OP, Church of the rainbow coloured unicorn.

:roll:

Seriously, I'm agnostic. I wouldn't have much faith in philosophy and my own reasoning and critical thinking abilities if I wasn't.


But even though you admit you don't know you can still believe either way.


Isn't that the point? You can neither prove, nor disprove it, by either reason or perception, both of them fail on this count, so I choose a neutral ground. All I know is that I don't know :lol:



Yay, atheism!


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01 Apr 2012, 12:52 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:
Kjas wrote:
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Kjas wrote:
In the spirit of the OP, Church of the rainbow coloured unicorn.

:roll:

Seriously, I'm agnostic. I wouldn't have much faith in philosophy and my own reasoning and critical thinking abilities if I wasn't.


But even though you admit you don't know you can still believe either way.


Isn't that the point? You can neither prove, nor disprove it, by either reason or perception, both of them fail on this count, so I choose a neutral ground. All I know is that I don't know :lol:



Yay, atheism!


Some people who are religious become athestis some atheist become religion it happens all the time having religion doesn't make you perfect im against religon having a role in passing laws in politics to I support seperation of church and state as well.



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01 Apr 2012, 12:53 pm

Kjas wrote:
snapcap wrote:
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In the spirit of the OP, Church of the rainbow coloured unicorn.

:roll:

Seriously, I'm agnostic. I wouldn't have much faith in philosophy and my own reasoning and critical thinking abilities if I wasn't.


But even though you admit you don't know you can still believe either way.


Isn't that the point? You can neither prove, nor disprove it, by either reason or perception, both of them fail on this count, so I choose a neutral ground. All I know is that I don't know :lol:



The point is that while you hold your knowledge above your beliefs, you still have your beliefs, and they do exist.



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01 Apr 2012, 12:55 pm

Atheists do hold beliefs but not of the supernatural of any kind.