DHS order of 450 million Hollow Point bullets

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450 million, with 330 million people, who own two guns per person.

That is 1.5 rounds per person, and the person in this case with several guns, and a lot more ammo.

A takeover by government resisted by 10% of the people would pit a million government employees, Armed Forces, HS, against 33 million armed with scoped deer rifles, with four times the range.

The odds change when the Armed Forces side with their parents, siblings, neighbors, and bring their skills and weapons to join the Free American Army.

Imagine our forces in Afganistan, armed only with hand guns, facing fifty times as many armed with scoped rifles. It would be a very short war.

Our government was rightfully set up where the government does have to fear the people.

On the other side, training a half million in the use of small arms, a thousand rounds each is but basic training. They do need to be taught, do not shoot yourself, the people you are working with, or innocent bystanders.

Training is on a range, with a range officer, strict rules, still targets, facing forward. Gun fights are in the dark, at close range, with innocents, hostages, human shields, with perhaps several shooting at you. Guns are loud, and loudest when you are in front of them. Bright flashes, deffening sound, everything moving, bullets hitting all around you.

Now calmly pick out the shooters, and as body armor is common, go for head shots, that will not kill the people behind them. Relax, take your time, do it right, in a half second.

Remember, you will be very embareassed, a second later if several ghosts are asking your ghost why you killed them.

On the topic of hollow points, why do we need to kill people? Shouldn't we focus on ammunition that can temporarily paralyze a person?

Think about the cost of firing a bullet, or alot of them in some kind of urban warfare:

Every bullet costs lots of money to remove and people can spend months recuperating if they don't die. These are people who need to be replaced at work and the whole thing costs money... lots of money to deploy lots of bullets, and it'll cost you alot of friends and family when s**t goes down. So why not limit the use of weapons to instant tranquilizers? Then people wake up a few hours later and are fine. No medical costs, no continuous avenging of peoples death... just make sure everyone wears a helmet so when they hit the ground there are no injuries.

Or we could all just do laser tag when it comes to war... getting shot disables your laser and turns on a red light on your armor that signals that you need to be removed from the battlefield so you can't interfere.

Seriously, the issue here is with the obsession with death and killing as being righteous. If we have truly evolved, our weapons wouldn't kill. A trank gun is actually better if you think about it... so you miss the head or heart shot and the guy is still going around with his automatic and shooting people... so you keep shooting and he kills a few more while you're trying to get the head/heart shot. Now with a trank gun, you shoot him the pinky... he goes down, nobody dies. How cool is that? Just make sure you're the best trank gunslinger around and that trank guns are close analogues to real guns just in case. But the trank gun should always be the first thing you reach for.

Tranquilliser darts are more expensive than bullets, and can be every bit as lethal if the target happens to have an allergy to that specific drug. They also won't stop someone whose on a strong stimulant (large doses of cocaine, meth, speed, etc).

What you're suggesting wouldn't be nearly as reliable or cost effective and would still lead to deaths. It's foolish to think it could work.