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13 Apr 2012, 5:20 am

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trHcmFeO3mY&feature=related[/youtube] China taking the lead in wind energy devolopment. So much for the dirty air eh?btw This vid is about 6 years old :lol:


Have the Chinese developed a decent battery for storing their wind generated energy? Answer: No.

There is work being done at MIT to make economical high capacity batteries that can store wind and light generated power. Until that happens the so called "green renewable sources" are of limited use in a first rate industrial country. The U.S. generates and consumes over 4 quads of power each year. Wind and Photo-voltaic are miniscule and fractional by comparison.

The only reasonable course for both China and the U.S. is to pave their countries from one end to the other with breeder reactors that use thorium as the base fissionable. Fission power produces no carbon dioxide and breeder reactors can consume "waste" to produce power. There is very little radioactive residual that needs to be disposed of.

But the eco-phreaks fight nuclear power tooth and nail. They want us to live in a wind-mill powered society and live on nuts and berries.

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13 Apr 2012, 9:06 am

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But the eco-phreaks fight nuclear power tooth and nail. They want us to live in a wind-mill powered society and live on nuts and berries.

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I am an eco-freak, I eat nuts and berries, and I support nuclear power. :)



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13 Apr 2012, 9:43 am

All this talk about China's rural areas, how long did it take the U.S. to tame the Wild West? Is it tame now?



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13 Apr 2012, 11:47 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w_tH8lsluA[/youtube][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMxQEHfU6hM&feature=related[/youtube] Lets not forget they have a space program Just like US and Russia do. Sure they are not the first to do so. However I would not underestimate their capabilities.


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13 Apr 2012, 4:58 pm

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w_tH8lsluA[/youtube][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMxQEHfU6hM&feature=related[/youtube] Lets not forget they have a space program Just like US and Russia do. Sure they are not the first to do so. However I would not underestimate their capabilities.


The Chinese people are an intelligent, hardworking and badly governed people.

If the Chinese were more free in what they could do they would recapture the glory of Old China which at one time was a lightyear ahead of the rest of the world.

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14 Apr 2012, 2:26 pm

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Yes, certainly, but..............one Chinese friend said to me there was no chance of democracy working, they've always been at each others throats and still will be.

I once said the a young Chinese man who was close to me, isn't it so that the Chinese need to be more innovative. He laughed and said "what.......the Chinese innovative. I suppose this centuries Chinese history hasn't helped innovating thinking, but change will come. I think the hope is that the Chinese who study overseas will take something better back with them. The western system of education encourages more innovative thinking. I've known quite a few Chinese people who got there MSc here. I've also known a lot of educated women who came here to start a new life, I suppose free from a bad marriage, but they don't talk about it much. Oppression is very counter productive, but isn't that too obvious, at least to us westeners.



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14 Apr 2012, 2:39 pm

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China is light years ahead in dirty unbreathable air.

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And, very ironically, in funding research for renewable energy. It's very strange. You kind of have to wonder if the people building the roads and power plants even talk to the people giving out research grants.


China is a monument to Crony Communism. It is a gangster state with various empires and satraps within the state scoffing up what loot they can. China is the People's Republic of Crooks.

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Yeah, but its really effective and proves that a country that is primarily focused on social issues will lose to one entirely focused on economic growth.



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14 Apr 2012, 3:56 pm

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Yeah, but its really effective and proves that a country that is primarily focused on social issues will lose to one entirely focused on economic growth.


Their leadership is focused on wealth and power. Just like our leadership.

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14 Apr 2012, 3:58 pm

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Yeah, but its really effective and proves that a country that is primarily focused on social issues will lose to one entirely focused on economic growth.


Their leadership is focused on wealth and power. Just like our leadership.

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Yup that is america for you wealth and power I agree.



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15 Apr 2012, 4:24 am

I have just been watching a Chinese documentary about how mine workers live after serious accidents. A man who was blinded got very little compensation and manages to farm some land. We saw the video of him hoeing the land. Another man discovered he could do embroidery and works at least 12 hours a day. That is from a man who has to lay flat on his back all the time. This is a privately owned mine.



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15 Apr 2012, 4:52 am

ruveyn wrote:
TM wrote:

Yeah, but its really effective and proves that a country that is primarily focused on social issues will lose to one entirely focused on economic growth.


Their leadership is focused on wealth and power. Just like our leadership.

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Your leadership is focused on social issues.



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15 Apr 2012, 6:30 am

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Your leadership is focused on social issues.


Who is "Your" please?



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15 Apr 2012, 11:00 am

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Your leadership is focused on social issues.


Who is "Your" please?


*United States of America.



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15 Apr 2012, 11:34 am

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There was a time when American meat products were suspect. An expose of the hideous conditions of the American slaughter houses was made in the novel -The Jungle-. We managed to live passed that by putting in reasonable health and quality regulations. I will not hold my breath until the Chinese do something similar.

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Liberal!! ! The Jungle was a downright socialist novel!! !



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15 Apr 2012, 11:35 am

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The Chinese people are an intelligent, hardworking and badly governed people
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Yes, certainly, but..............one Chinese friend said to me there was no chance of democracy working, they've always been at each others throats and still will be.

I once said the a young Chinese man who was close to me, isn't it so that the Chinese need to be more innovative. He laughed and said "what.......the Chinese innovative. I suppose this centuries Chinese history hasn't helped innovating thinking, but change will come. I think the hope is that the Chinese who study overseas will take something better back with them. The western system of education encourages more innovative thinking. I've known quite a few Chinese people who got there MSc here. I've also known a lot of educated women who came here to start a new life, I suppose free from a bad marriage, but they don't talk about it much. Oppression is very counter productive, but isn't that too obvious, at least to us westeners.


Taiwan is sometimes held as a model of what China could/should be.



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15 Apr 2012, 7:56 pm

TM wrote:
Grebels wrote:
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Your leadership is focused on social issues.


Who is "Your" please?


*United States of America.


social issues are all part of the act. Follow the money.

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