Should US require mandatory military service of citizens?

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09 Jul 2013, 1:23 pm

If my country forced me to war, I would gladly agree and then boycott the army from the inside so the war ends as quickly as possible.

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09 Jul 2013, 1:35 pm

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If my country forced me to war, I would gladly agree and then boycott the army from the inside so the war ends as quickly as possible.

You'll go to the stockade for sedition, mutiny, treason, and whatever other charges they can make stick and the war goes on as planned without you.....

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09 Jul 2013, 1:41 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:

If my country forced me to war, I would gladly agree and then boycott the army from the inside so the war ends as quickly as possible.

Outright conscientious objection is the best way of mantaining the moral high ground.

In the UK it became a political movement of its own during World war 1.

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09 Jul 2013, 1:43 pm

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Vexcalibur wrote:

If my country forced me to war, I would gladly agree and then boycott the army from the inside so the war ends as quickly as possible.

You'll go to the stockade for sedition, mutiny, treason, and whatever other charges they can make stick and the war goes on as planned without you.....

I bet you enjoyed typing that list.

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09 Jul 2013, 2:16 pm

Kind of depends on the country. Switzerland seems like it might be reasonable.

I wouldn't want to serve in America though.

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09 Jul 2013, 2:32 pm

thomas81 wrote:

Raptor wrote:

Vexcalibur wrote:

If my country forced me to war, I would gladly agree and then boycott the army from the inside so the war ends as quickly as possible.

You'll go to the stockade for sedition, mutiny, treason, and whatever other charges they can make stick and the war goes on as planned without you.....

I bet you enjoyed typing that list.

All I can hear is this

The armies of the world tend to be intolerant of troublemakers in their ranks. I wouldnt expect a liberal to be able to grasp that, though.

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09 Jul 2013, 2:33 pm

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Kind of depends on the country. Switzerland seems like it might be reasonable.

I wouldn't want to serve in America though.

true, the chances of such a thing happening in somewhere like Switzerland or the Republic of Ireland are negligible.

If conscription happened in the United Kingdom again or many countries in Europe the public outrage would be deafening.

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09 Jul 2013, 2:41 pm

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The armies of the world tend to be intolerant of troublemakers in their ranks. I wouldnt expect a liberal to be able to grasp that, though.

Don't insult me with the term 'liberal'. I'm far more left wing than that.

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09 Jul 2013, 3:02 pm

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The armies of the world tend to be intolerant of troublemakers in their ranks. I wouldnt expect a liberal to be able to grasp that, though.

Don't insult me with the term 'liberal'. I'm far more left wing than that.

Liberal, leftist, whatever, I use the terms interchangeably.
If it's a problem go to the tattle tale room and fill out a butthurt report. Don't forget to mention my smugness and indifference.

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09 Jul 2013, 3:11 pm

I think the US should, because it would provoke the largest nationwide protest in American history, the US would fragment as a result, and New England would finally have its independence. I've been wanting the US government to do something questionable enough that it finally causes the nation to fragment.

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09 Jul 2013, 3:19 pm

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They tried that in 1861-65 and it didnt work out so well for the seceding states.....

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09 Jul 2013, 3:23 pm

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thomas81 wrote:

Raptor wrote:

The armies of the world tend to be intolerant of troublemakers in their ranks. I wouldnt expect a liberal to be able to grasp that, though.

Don't insult me with the term 'liberal'. I'm far more left wing than that.

Liberal, leftist, whatever, I use the terms interchangeably.
If it's a problem go to the tattle tale room and fill out a butthurt report. Don't forget to mention my smugness and indifference.

Theres no butthurt on my part, quite the contrary. All you are doing is exacerbating our collective sense of euro-superiority with your country's general ignorance and naivety of political terminology.

You are quite the stereotype aren't you?

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09 Jul 2013, 3:30 pm

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thomas81 wrote:

Raptor wrote:

The armies of the world tend to be intolerant of troublemakers in their ranks. I wouldnt expect a liberal to be able to grasp that, though.

Don't insult me with the term 'liberal'. I'm far more left wing than that.

Liberal, leftist, whatever, I use the terms interchangeably.
If it's a problem go to the tattle tale room and fill out a butthurt report. Don't forget to mention my smugness and indifference.

Yes, it's one of the benefits of being a citizen of a superpower nation. Or should I say THE superpower nation?

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09 Jul 2013, 3:41 pm

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Vexcalibur wrote:

If my country forced me to war, I would gladly agree and then boycott the army from the inside so the war ends as quickly as possible.

You'll go to the stockade for sedition, mutiny, treason, and whatever other charges they can make stick.

Yeah, so?

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and the war goes on as planned without you....

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09 Jul 2013, 3:55 pm

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Yes, it's one of the benefits of being a citizen of a superpower nation. Or should I say THE superpower nation?

If Europe combined its resources, it would be stronger than the USA on all fronts. Also the USA is nothing special, China acheived superpower status some time ago.

Also last I heard your astronauts are having to hitch hike on Russian rockets.

Guess I will just have to contend myself with nationalised healthcare and free prescriptions.

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09 Jul 2013, 3:55 pm

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They tried that in 1861-65 and it didnt work out so well for the seceding states.....

Things would end differently in the internet age than they did back then. The US wouldn't be able to use military force against the fragmented regions without facing an extremely negative response from the global community. The majority of nations wouldn't be afraid to protect the fragmented regions, from the tyranny of a crippled US, in a righteous, defensive war. Even the majority of the supporters of the draft would probably be against using military force to return the fragmented regions to the union. It's unlikely that the US would still have the power or the support to regain its lost territories.

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