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23 Jul 2012, 1:52 pm

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I understand the purpose of these meetings. The lack of transparency and disclosure to the public, not so much.


IMO, transparency is over-rated. Too much transparency means that people could not feel as free to express their thoughts.


There are various reasons corporations have private meetings:
*Inside trading.
*Not to affect the value of stock and shares for decisions yet to be made / simply discussed that may never be made.
*To prevent fear / panic (as found with scenario preparation).
*Trade secrets.

I don't really agree with any of those but if I was in the shoes of a CEO I would probably not want all my cards laid out on the table, either. It's not good business.



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23 Jul 2012, 1:54 pm

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No I can't. It's not that long of a read. You read books don't you?

It's 400 pages. 400 pages is considered an insanely long read for an internet thread.

I definitely read books, and most books are significantly less than 400 pages. Asking for us to read 400 pages for your thread, to find associations without some sense of direction on what particular aspects within that read you consider to prove anything seems a little extreme. Especially given that I think most here do not trust your reasoning and the soundness of it.


Most books i read are 400-700 pages roughly, do you read picture books? Those the only books i can think of that have less than 400 pages


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23 Jul 2012, 1:54 pm

problem is it's not just corporate interests who are in attendance at bilderberg meetings. this is one of the areas where i think people are being quite prudent in having concerns. it's the nature of the concerns that i might perhaps disagree about.


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23 Jul 2012, 1:56 pm

NWO, is that some sort of bamf rap group like NWA?


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23 Jul 2012, 1:58 pm

TheKing wrote:
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No I can't. It's not that long of a read. You read books don't you?

It's 400 pages. 400 pages is considered an insanely long read for an internet thread.

I definitely read books, and most books are significantly less than 400 pages. Asking for us to read 400 pages for your thread, to find associations without some sense of direction on what particular aspects within that read you consider to prove anything seems a little extreme. Especially given that I think most here do not trust your reasoning and the soundness of it.


Most books i read are 400-700 pages roughly, do you read picture books? Those the only books i can think of that have less than 400 pages


Reading 400 pages for a random internet thread is waaaaaaaay more free time than I'm willing to spend. If I'm reading 400 pages for something, I'd better be getting either A. an education or B. entertainment value.


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23 Jul 2012, 2:00 pm

TheKing wrote:
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No I can't. It's not that long of a read. You read books don't you?

It's 400 pages. 400 pages is considered an insanely long read for an internet thread.

I definitely read books, and most books are significantly less than 400 pages. Asking for us to read 400 pages for your thread, to find associations without some sense of direction on what particular aspects within that read you consider to prove anything seems a little extreme. Especially given that I think most here do not trust your reasoning and the soundness of it.


Most books i read are 400-700 pages roughly, do you read picture books? Those the only books i can think of that have less than 400 pages


some of the best books ever written have less than 200 pages. camus' the fall has less than 90.


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23 Jul 2012, 2:00 pm

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NWO, is that some sort of bamf rap group like NWA?


Nigz Within Office? :lol:

peebo. Yes there are geopolitical agendas pushed through such meetings and a lot of lobbying..and that is the "bigger picture" so to speak. What good would stopping those meetings have, though? They will just happen somewhere else. There are other venues such powerful folk meet, anyway.



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23 Jul 2012, 2:37 pm

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NWO, is that some sort of bamf rap group like NWA?


Nigz Within Office? :lol:


I was thinking Niggaz Wit Optimism but that is good too!


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23 Jul 2012, 2:42 pm

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peebo. Yes there are geopolitical agendas pushed through such meetings and a lot of lobbying..and that is the "bigger picture" so to speak. What good would stopping those meetings have, though? They will just happen somewhere else. There are other venues such powerful folk meet, anyway.


of course. doesn't mean i have to approve though. the system is rotten. i won't be satisfied until we've violently overthrown it and eaten the rich.


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23 Jul 2012, 3:21 pm

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peebo. Yes there are geopolitical agendas pushed through such meetings and a lot of lobbying..and that is the "bigger picture" so to speak. What good would stopping those meetings have, though? They will just happen somewhere else. There are other venues such powerful folk meet, anyway.


of course. doesn't mean i have to approve though. the system is rotten. i won't be satisfied until we've violently overthrown it and eaten the rich.


The fact that political leaders attend is a bit disheartening. I'd almost feel a little better if it was all private corporations.

Not too sure if the rich would taste too good. I absolutely hate caviar.



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23 Jul 2012, 3:32 pm

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vague superstition.

one of those papers is the outline for the UN humanitarian work, both planned, in progress and what they think is actually needed.
the other is, by its own admission a speculative collection of scenarios.


That humanitarian work is owned by the UN which colaborates with Soros and Sachs. Soros and Sachs profit off of the humanitarian work because of the unecessary tax dollars demanded by the UN (top down) to combat these "problems" which can be easily fixed without government control - merely just by individuals working together. This is a global ponzi scheme, and is outlined in "Commonwealth" by Jeffery Sachs. He states that by 2015 a global fund will be necessary and each state should have control from the top down to appropriately allocate their resources. The UN will control the entire world. It's even stated "The UN will have to take on new authoritarian roles"


This translates to "The UN wants to police the world and they are corrupt!"
Well, no duh! What do you think it was founded for? What are you going to do about it? More importantly, what CAN you do about it?
I guess the answer is "nothing" so you try to "educate" people about it and hope someone else fixes the problem for you. Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. I'm guessing you bought into the Kony 2012 thing until your info sites tore that a new one as well.


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I keep touting this one to people - stop consuming so much!
They keep talking about a "demand" in the reports. People are demanding the wrong things. The other day I was volunteering with someone and they said "it would be nice if they built condos here." WHAT?! We have sooooooooo many condos in such a small space here in Edmonton and it's even worse in Toronto. The infastructure is marketed to families as "smaller spaces" and "smarter living" and what do you do? Maybe you don't - but a whole lot of us do - we buy into the lie. We buy the iPad. And the iPhone. I asked someone the other day why they need an iPhone or why they need internet - on their PHONE. They couldn't give me a reason other than "I like having it." Are you seriously telling me we're SO PRESSED FOR TIME that we need to constantly be disconnected from the real world and tuned into a screen? It sure seems that way. A lot of people continue to buy into the lies of consumption. Who really needs 10 pairs of shoes? Or a diamond? The sense of entitlement in North America has destroyed countless lives across the world, and NOW that everything has gone according to plan, the Rockefellers are finally able to implement the next stages, but it's HARD to implement a lot of stages at once, because the rats get crazy. So what do they do? Desensetize us to violence. I bet in 20 - 30 years time they will be executing citizens for breaking the law out in the open.


So its the Rockefellers who behind it all?

Are the Rockellers behind the Illumanatti?

Or is it the Illumanati who are behind the Rockefellers?



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23 Jul 2012, 3:46 pm

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So its the Rockefellers who behind it all?

Are the Rockellers behind the Illumanatti?

Or is it the Illumanati who are behind the Rockefellers?


It becomes more clear to me that this conspiracy nonsense is actually a proto-religion. The Rockefeller-Illuminati dichotomy is analogous to the whole "Jesus is God or God's son or both God and his son" thing that Christians go on about :o :o :o


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23 Jul 2012, 3:50 pm

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peebo. Yes there are geopolitical agendas pushed through such meetings and a lot of lobbying..and that is the "bigger picture" so to speak. What good would stopping those meetings have, though? They will just happen somewhere else. There are other venues such powerful folk meet, anyway.


of course. doesn't mean i have to approve though. the system is rotten. i won't be satisfied until we've violently overthrown it and eaten the rich.


The fact that political leaders attend is a bit disheartening. I'd almost feel a little better if it was all private corporations.

Not too sure if the rich would taste too good. I absolutely hate caviar.


forgive me for thinking that if we elect politicians to office as our representatives, then their behaviour should be completely transparent. this is all a moot point, mind, as i have no faith whatsoever in leberal democracy and the point of this exchange between you and i is one example as to why.

not sure i'd literally eat the rich either, that was a reference to this classic comic strip presents film, although i realise it's probably quite obscure



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk3NKyUfuN0[/youtube]


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23 Jul 2012, 3:59 pm

no forgiveness required. opinion is just that and it is yours to have and requires no defense.



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23 Jul 2012, 4:04 pm

and thank you for that video. the comedy is a bit awkward, but so much so that i really can't stop watching it.



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23 Jul 2012, 4:25 pm

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It becomes more clear to me that this conspiracy nonsense is actually a proto-religion. The Rockefeller-Illuminati dichotomy is analogous to the whole "Jesus is God or God's son or both God and his son" thing that Christians go on about :o :o :o


Yes, as a sociologist of religion, I would call it a far-right libertarian "religious phenomenon." It is not actually a separate religion, since many Christians, Jews, Muslims, atheists, and occultists accept it.


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