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20 Aug 2012, 6:05 am

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I despise libertarianism and extreme individualism, and most Autists I have met online appear (to me) to be libertarians.

I am a far-left socialist. Some socialists are libertarians or anarchists (libertarian socialism or anarcho-socialism). Others are collectivists. I am in the second category.

Examples of libertarian socialism are The Zeitgeist Movement, the Venus Project, and Sacred Economics.

How do you feel living in suburban Kansas though? (which I know is more right-leaning)? I don't think I could tolerate that very well. Keep in mind this comes from a progressive liberal who lives on the Missouri side of the state line in KC. I'd be hard pressed to find a bluer county in MO than the one I'm already living in though. Only problem is my parents are extremely conservative and have fox news channel for breakfast lunch and dinner (setup for ample brainwashing).



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20 Aug 2012, 7:05 am

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There are are libertarian socialists that are materialist , rationalist and don't require conspiracy thinking.


That is true. However, The Zeitgeist Movement of Peter Joseph has distanced itself from the original astrotheological Zeitgeist movie. Joseph himself says that he no longer supports the so-called 9/11 "truth" movement.

The Venus Project and Sacred Economics have never been associated with conspiratorial thinking. At one time, the Zeitgeist Movement became the activist arm of the Venus Project. However, personality conflicts led to a separation.


And because trutherism is nuts.
I have a pet hypothesis that any conspiracy theory is a cover for or leads to anti-antisemitism.

Still I see too much magical thinking in all three groups.
I prefer Goldman, Bakunin, Chomsky and occasionally Jensen.


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20 Aug 2012, 7:25 am

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Are near-sighted people conservative or liberal?

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Depends on whether or not they think they're entitled to laser surgery at the expense of others.


You miss the point. The question is absurd.

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It's you that misses the point as usual. I gave a flippant answer to an analogy that isn't even fitting. AS is a little more neurological than nearsightedness is.



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20 Aug 2012, 7:40 am

I'm a nationalist.
That means I'm portrayed as a "Nazi" by traitor politicians.



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20 Aug 2012, 8:16 am

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I'm a nationalist.
That means I'm portrayed as a "Nazi" by traitor politicians.


Are you sure it's not because you use the term traitor politicians?


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20 Aug 2012, 8:18 am

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I'm a nationalist.
That means I'm portrayed as a "Nazi" by traitor politicians.


What sort of nationalist? There are loads of different types. It depends exactly what you advocate as part of your "nationalist" outlook that makes the difference.



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20 Aug 2012, 8:26 am

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I'm far right, but most on the spectrum appear to be far left.



If you were truly far right, you wouldn't DREAM of using an image of a conjoined US and Israeli flag pin as your user pic. The far right hates the jews with a passion.



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20 Aug 2012, 8:32 am

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If you were truly far right, you wouldn't DREAM of using an image of a conjoined US and Israeli flag pin as your user pic. The far right hates the jews with a passion.


That is true of much of the far-right, yes, but there were far-right parties in Israel, don't forget. Look up the likes of the Kach party or the Apartheid regime in South Africa.

Not all of the far-right is anti-Semitic.



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20 Aug 2012, 8:43 am

Barring actual, rigorous surveying, I won't answer the title question.

I'm a member of the social democratic left.


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20 Aug 2012, 9:14 am

Tequila wrote:
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If you were truly far right, you wouldn't DREAM of using an image of a conjoined US and Israeli flag pin as your user pic. The far right hates the jews with a passion.


That is true of much of the far-right, yes, but there were far-right parties in Israel, don't forget. Look up the likes of the Kach party or the Apartheid regime in South Africa.

Not all of the far-right is anti-Semitic.


The American New Far Right. The tea party , Ultra conservative radio, etc, tends to be pro-Israel.


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20 Aug 2012, 12:27 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
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If you were truly far right, you wouldn't DREAM of using an image of a conjoined US and Israeli flag pin as your user pic. The far right hates the jews with a passion.


That is true of much of the far-right, yes, but there were far-right parties in Israel, don't forget. Look up the likes of the Kach party or the Apartheid regime in South Africa.

Not all of the far-right is anti-Semitic.


The American New Far Right. The tea party , Ultra conservative radio, etc, tends to be pro-Israel.


But that's largely because they want to be on God's good side when the rapture comes. The far right's association with the evangelical right has made them outwardly appear to be Pro-Jewish, but only because they figure they'll get something out of it from God.

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20 Aug 2012, 12:37 pm

I am a Iwannaseeitburnist.....basically to specify I hope the whole system collapses. Other then that I suppose I tend to be more left leaning than right leaning.


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20 Aug 2012, 2:12 pm

I can answer the question in the title in one word:

Yes.


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20 Aug 2012, 3:14 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Tequila wrote:
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If you were truly far right, you wouldn't DREAM of using an image of a conjoined US and Israeli flag pin as your user pic. The far right hates the jews with a passion.


That is true of much of the far-right, yes, but there were far-right parties in Israel, don't forget. Look up the likes of the Kach party or the Apartheid regime in South Africa.

Not all of the far-right is anti-Semitic.


The American New Far Right. The tea party , Ultra conservative radio, etc, tends to be pro-Israel.


But that's largely because they want to be on God's good side when the rapture comes. The far right's association with the evangelical right has made them outwardly appear to be Pro-Jewish, but only because they figure they'll get something out of it from God.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I think it is quite possible to be pro-Israel and ant-Jewish Hitler was.


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20 Aug 2012, 3:19 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Tequila wrote:
AspieRogue wrote:
If you were truly far right, you wouldn't DREAM of using an image of a conjoined US and Israeli flag pin as your user pic. The far right hates the jews with a passion.


That is true of much of the far-right, yes, but there were far-right parties in Israel, don't forget. Look up the likes of the Kach party or the Apartheid regime in South Africa.

Not all of the far-right is anti-Semitic.


The American New Far Right. The tea party , Ultra conservative radio, etc, tends to be pro-Israel.


But that's largely because they want to be on God's good side when the rapture comes. The far right's association with the evangelical right has made them outwardly appear to be Pro-Jewish, but only because they figure they'll get something out of it from God.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I think it is quite possible to be pro-Israel and ant-Jewish Hitler was.


I take it you're referring to Hitler's policy of deporting Jews from Germany, where many fled to Israel?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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20 Aug 2012, 3:51 pm

The fact that there are so many hilarious satire sites poking fun at "right wingers"(populists conservatives) really says a lot about not only the ignorance of those people, but their outright stupidity.