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Is flying the flag posted in this thread a geture of treason towars the USofAholes?
Oh Hells yeah! 17%  17%  [ 3 ]
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30 Sep 2012, 12:16 am

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I don't get why American politics is so racialized. I mean, I've never heard the phrase "white leftists" used to describe factions within the NDP yet "white liberals" are routinely used as a category in American politics (yet "black liberals" are seldom mentioned).

By the way, it seems that many racial minorities (particularly African-Americans) are getting more socially progressive on gay rights issues since Obama took office.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... bias_.html


Last weekend at Valleyfest here in Spokane Valley, WA., when I was going about asking people to sign pledges in support of Referendum 72 (upholding the legislature's vote to legalize gay rights), I found more black people were willing to sign in support than were whites. Especially if they were in interracial relationships.
(In an unrelated topic, as an Aspie, I was scared s**tless at first, walking up to strangers and explaining to them why they ought to sign the pledge. It actually got better when even people who disagreed were pretty cool about it.)

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30 Sep 2012, 12:27 am

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Master_Pedant wrote:
I don't get why American politics is so racialized. I mean, I've never heard the phrase "white leftists" used to describe factions within the NDP yet "white liberals" are routinely used as a category in American politics (yet "black liberals" are seldom mentioned).

By the way, it seems that many racial minorities (particularly African-Americans) are getting more socially progressive on gay rights issues since Obama took office.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... bias_.html


Last weekend at Valleyfest here in Spokane Valley, WA., when I was going about asking people to sign pledges in support of Referendum 72 (upholding the legislature's vote to legalize gay rights), I found more black people were willing to sign in support than were whites. Especially if they were in interracial relationships.
(In an unrelated topic, as an Aspie, I was scared s**tless at first, walking up to strangers and explaining to them why they ought to sign the pledge. It actually got better when even people who disagreed were pretty cool about it.)

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



What about the Mexicanos? Do you people not effing realize that gay rights is only one issue and does NOT disprove my claim that despite political agreement, liberal whites, blacks, and latinos have cultural differences? In the case of California, LATINOS OUTNUMBER BLACKS AND THEIR POPULATION IS INCREASING WHILE THE BLACK POPULATION IS DECREASING!



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30 Sep 2012, 12:30 am

Wow! Some people have way too much time on their hands. Yet, no time to educate themselves.



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30 Sep 2012, 12:40 am

AspieRogue wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
I don't get why American politics is so racialized. I mean, I've never heard the phrase "white leftists" used to describe factions within the NDP yet "white liberals" are routinely used as a category in American politics (yet "black liberals" are seldom mentioned).

By the way, it seems that many racial minorities (particularly African-Americans) are getting more socially progressive on gay rights issues since Obama took office.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... bias_.html


Last weekend at Valleyfest here in Spokane Valley, WA., when I was going about asking people to sign pledges in support of Referendum 72 (upholding the legislature's vote to legalize gay rights), I found more black people were willing to sign in support than were whites. Especially if they were in interracial relationships.
(In an unrelated topic, as an Aspie, I was scared s**tless at first, walking up to strangers and explaining to them why they ought to sign the pledge. It actually got better when even people who disagreed were pretty cool about it.)

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



What about the Mexicanos? Do you people not effing realize that gay rights is only one issue and does NOT disprove my claim that despite political agreement, liberal whites, blacks, and latinos have cultural differences? In the case of California, LATINOS OUTNUMBER BLACKS AND THEIR POPULATION IS INCREASING WHILE THE BLACK POPULATION IS DECREASING!


Sorry, but I actually didn't run into any that day. I did talk to a Native American family about "marriage equality." I don't think the man of the family understood what I was talking about - or he was just being a smart ass - as he told me, "I think women should be subservient to men." I laughed my head off.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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30 Sep 2012, 1:03 am

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Wow! Some people have way too much time on their hands. Yet, no time to educate themselves.


What? Me?

I already explained my map is a joke, my lame attempt at ED style satire. I don't think the cultural divisions in the US are really as extreme or stereotypical as presented. The point is I find it sad people are talking about secessions and how everyone is hopelessly divided.



30 Sep 2012, 1:05 am

marshall wrote:
Coastt wrote:
Wow! Some people have way too much time on their hands. Yet, no time to educate themselves.


What? Me?

I already explained my map is a joke, my lame attempt at ED style satire. I don't think the cultural divisions in the US are really as extreme or stereotypical as presented. The point is I find it sad people are talking about secessions and how everyone is hopelessly divided.



I guess I don't see the divisions in American society as being such a bad thing, actually.



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30 Sep 2012, 9:30 am

Better keep this secessionist talk a secret from ArrantPariah,he gets real grumpy if people mention it. :lol:



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30 Sep 2012, 12:22 pm

Did someone say "secession?"



30 Sep 2012, 12:24 pm

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Did someone say "secession?"




Yep.



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30 Sep 2012, 12:43 pm

Hypothetical: America balkanizes into at least 3 or 4 new nations. Who gets all the nukes? Who gets all the military hardware? Who steps in to be the next in line for "World Police"? China? I think I prefer the US...


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30 Sep 2012, 1:13 pm

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Hypothetical: America balkanizes into at least 3 or 4 new nations. Who gets all the nukes? Who gets all the military hardware? Who steps in to be the next in line for "World Police"? China? I think I prefer the US...

How about Canada? You guys have some strategically located territory up near the north pole. Good for lobbing ICBMs at countries that misbehave. Australia can police the southern hemisphere.



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30 Sep 2012, 1:14 pm

The USSR figured it out. So can we.



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30 Sep 2012, 1:16 pm

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The USSR figured it out. So can we.


There will be a superpower vacuum that was not existent during the breakup of the USSR. Things are bound to get ugly


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30 Sep 2012, 4:33 pm

AspieRogue wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
I don't get why American politics is so racialized. I mean, I've never heard the phrase "white leftists" used to describe factions within the NDP yet "white liberals" are routinely used as a category in American politics (yet "black liberals" are seldom mentioned).

By the way, it seems that many racial minorities (particularly African-Americans) are getting more socially progressive on gay rights issues since Obama took office.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... bias_.html


Last weekend at Valleyfest here in Spokane Valley, WA., when I was going about asking people to sign pledges in support of Referendum 72 (upholding the legislature's vote to legalize gay rights), I found more black people were willing to sign in support than were whites. Especially if they were in interracial relationships.
(In an unrelated topic, as an Aspie, I was scared s**tless at first, walking up to strangers and explaining to them why they ought to sign the pledge. It actually got better when even people who disagreed were pretty cool about it.)

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

yes, there are cultural differneces; integration gradually decreases that, however, and so does being in power. It's a different thing to actually be in control than it is to criticize those in power, and those who come into control tend to converge towards a mean regardless of their origin.


What about the Mexicanos? Do you people not effing realize that gay rights is only one issue and does NOT disprove my claim that despite political agreement, liberal whites, blacks, and latinos have cultural differences? In the case of California, LATINOS OUTNUMBER BLACKS AND THEIR POPULATION IS INCREASING WHILE THE BLACK POPULATION IS DECREASING!



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30 Sep 2012, 7:00 pm

Something AspieRogue, with his weird, racialist obsessions, should probably read.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/0 ... 58917.html


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01 Oct 2012, 2:56 am

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You gave Quebec too much territory, if it ever seceded it would look more like this:

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Quebec secession looks like a lost cause though at this point anyway



read that alternate-history forum thread I see =P


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