Who are the biggest terrorists?
naturalplastic wrote:
TM wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
TM wrote:
To be honest, the discussion shouldn't be "Who are the biggest terrorists" it should be "Who is enabling terrorism and making excuses for it?"
Talk about a boogeyman.
Enabling: Cultural relativists, moral relativists, people who are easily duped, just about everyone who buys oil from the middle east and I could go on.
Makng excuses: See number 1.
Lets go off these nonexistant people right now!
Fixed that for you.
Calm down!
Here is a towel-for the foam coming out of your mouth.
No need to "go on"- because all that you're doing is just repeating the same one thing over and over again.
Ok.
So your long list of 'enablers' is really a short list. A list that contains only two groups: 1)those who do not hate all muslims,(2) and those who buy oil.
I guess if you hate muslims that gives you magical powers to stop terrorism, and if you dont hate muslims then it gives you magical powers to enable terrorists.
Youll have to explain to the rest of us exactly how that works.
Not exactly sure how you got to "hating muslims" from "cultural and moral relativists" but I guess if I was schizophrenic I could make those leaps as well. The group would include the leftists that were against foreign intervention in Bosnia, in various parts of Africa (amongst others Rwanda which at the time of the night of long machetes was the most Christian country in the world), and quite a few others. Of course, I do understand how jumping on the "he hates muslims" bandwagon is so much easier and more convenient.
It also interestingly enough shows that you have much the same interpretation as I do, namely that;
A; Liberals tend to enable through relativism.
B: Not all muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are muslims.
Otherwise you wouldn't have made that leap as easily as Evil Knievel over a cardboard box.
naturalplastic wrote:
But yes- people who buy oil do indeed help enable terrorists. They make the sheiks rich, and the sheiks give money to the Taliban. Also the USA is forced to defend oil by occupying oil rich muslim countries galvanizing the local population against us as foriegn imperialists and that further plays into the hands of AlQueda and the taliban. Or we are forced to prop up corrupt puppet dictators to control the oil for us- and that has the same effect of playing into the hands of the terrorist.
The trouble is that this second bunch of baddies (the ones who buy oil) are US- you and I. And that is not going to change anytime soon.
So your list of two kinds of enablers does include one group that really is guilty as charged- us oil oil buyers.
The trouble is that this second bunch of baddies (the ones who buy oil) are US- you and I. And that is not going to change anytime soon.
So your list of two kinds of enablers does include one group that really is guilty as charged- us oil oil buyers.
Luckily, the country I live in does not buy oil from the middle east and even if it did, I voted against the current government in the last elections.
Terrorism has its roots in a particular sect of Islam. A tight knit group of secretive individuals would send an assassin to take out someone important. They didn't attack frequently or single out the top of the hierarchy. The state they fought against (also Islamic) didn't know when or where the next attack would occur, this caused them to panic, become distrustful of the local population, alienate the local population, and exhaust themselves.
The goal of terrorism is to make the intended target react and engage in counterproductive behavior. For the millions of dollars obl spent terrorizing us, he's had a trillion-plus dollar return on his investment plus the satisfaction of watching us turn on eachother.
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The Earth Liberation Front (ELF), also known as "Elves" or "The Elves",[1] is the collective name for autonomous individuals or covert cells who, according to the ELF Press Office, use "economic sabotage and guerrilla warfare to stop the exploitation and destruction of the environment".
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The Animal Liberation Front (ALF) is an international, underground leaderless resistance that engages in illegal direct action in pursuit of animal liberation. Activists see themselves as a modern-day Underground Railroad, removing animals from laboratories and farms, destroying facilities, arranging safe houses and veterinary care, and operating sanctuaries where the animals live out the rest of their lives
ELF and ALF are heroes IMO.
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Skilpadde wrote:
ELF and ALF are heroes IMO.
You mean these guys are heroes? Sure, let's celebrate groups that set fire to universities.
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And why burn down a ski resort to protect a habitat for lynx, when the two species of American lynx are in no way endangered???
ruveyn wrote:
Giftorcurse wrote:
Pro-lifers. 
When was the last time an abortion clinic was bombed?
Islamic bombers are everyday news. About once every five years some insane Christian bombs an abortion clinic or kills a doctor that does abortions.
ruveyn
Pro-lifers are terrorists and pro-choicers are nazis constantly comitting genocide.
GGPViper wrote:
Skilpadde wrote:
ELF and ALF are heroes IMO.
You mean these guys are heroes? Sure, let's celebrate groups that set fire to universities.
Yup - the ALF has been responsible for molotov cocktails being planted at the home of science researchers, letter bombs sent to people's homes, intimidation of researchers and their families, many fire attacks on farms (sometimes on the same premises - and freeing animals that the farmers say will cause them nothing but harm, since many cannot cope in the wild and aren't pets) and farm equipment, setting fire to fast food restaurants, torching vehicles and more.
Charming people.
