Any Gnostics on here?

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No, it does not. It just proves that humanity comes up with similar myths to explain things that the prescientific understanding could not comprehend. No supernatural "woo woo" necessary and if you think so - then PROVE that it exists. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Quetzachotl and Virachocha were pre-colombian. Do you understand the significance of that? The people who held these myths supposedly had no contact with the Old World when these myths surfaced. You can plausibly explain the similarities between the crucifixion of Thor and Christ as having resulted from indirect contact between Scandanavian and Near Eastern culture through trade routes. You really can't explain away the similarities between the virgin births, crucifixions and resurrections (not broad but very specific details) of Quetzachoatl and Christ through cross cultural pollination, because there was no trade or contact between these two sides of the world until Colombus, The Christ/Krishna/Viracoacha/Osiris archetype is something that isn't plagiarized but exists on its own through the contents of a collectively shared unconscious and emerges independently and sporadically through the mythological abstractions of different cultures and eras. It may be that our neurology is so similar that we produce strikingly similar myths when in complete isolation, or it may be that our psyche has a trans-temporal component altogether, but, either way, there's your extraordinary evidence that there is something foundational to human psychology that leads to the coagulation of crucified savior myths and that it isn't purely just a matter of plagiarization

I lean heavily toward Gnosticism. I've read some parts of the Nag Hammadi, some of the Gnostic Gospels, Jung's essay, "Answer to Job," some Elaine Pagels, and Stephan Hoeller's interpretation of Jung's Seven Sermons to the Dead. All fascinating to me. I also got a lot out of Jean-Yves Leloup's translation of The Gospel of Mary, and in that he mentioned Gitta Mallasz, and I found her writings - a transcription, according to her - titled Talking To Angels really fascinating.

I also combine a bit of Buddhism, Hinduism, Paganism and other bits and pieces in my beliefs.

Garbage in garbage out..lol. Yall break me up.

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What is more real than the physical cosmos we live in? All there is, is matter and energy operating in space and time. Our deepest thought are electrochemical migrations of ions passing through membranes.

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No such thing as the Gospel of Mary Magdalene.

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gno, gnot really.

This may be a little off topic but it demonstrates my way of thinking. Let's consider the Egyptian pyramid that New Agers are so fond of. Not that this is a bad idea for a burial monument or a building block however however why does it require slave labor and why does it house only the Pharaoh rather than the entire population? Wouldn't a triangular based pyramid be easier to expand as the population grows? And how about a 4 dimensional pyramid which is based on a more complex geometry? Unfortunately rather than making me the next Egyptian high priest I think they would probably run me out of the country for making their priests look like idiots. And of course the original idea of the pyramid was not my idea but why do I have to be reminded of that? So what if I am a copy cat.

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