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The_Walrus
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28 Nov 2012, 10:39 am

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But for now, it is anti-culture not to pirate thousands of books and not keep them in your computer.

No, the opposite is true. It is anti-culture to pirate books because that disincentives the creation of books.

Look, for example, how much rock music and popular science books have suffered since piracy came in. Publishers, record labels and retail outlets can no longer support these industries, or if they can, then they are not willing to take the risk on so many products.

If you want to use something, you must pay an agreed price for it. To do otherwise is selfish.



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28 Nov 2012, 11:29 am

The_Walrus wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
But for now, it is anti-culture not to pirate thousands of books and not keep them in your computer.

No, the opposite is true. It is anti-culture to pirate books because that disincentives the creation of books.

Look, for example, how much rock music and popular science books have suffered since piracy came in. Publishers, record labels and retail outlets can no longer support these industries, or if they can, then they are not willing to take the risk on so many products.

If you want to use something, you must pay an agreed price for it. To do otherwise is selfish.


Pirating is theft, pure and simple.

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28 Nov 2012, 11:52 am

Pirating e-books and keeping them in your computer..................................Well, what if your hard drive crashed before you can back up the data?



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30 Nov 2012, 8:58 pm

ScrewyWabbit wrote:
Keniichi wrote:
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Oodain wrote:
probably, at one point or another,

in some ways it is a good thing and others not,

leaving behind the physical one doesnt have to waste resources on something that in many cases is temporary fun to begin with.
it also makes the final product cheaper to produce so it can be sold cheaper, it is also easier to produce and sell so a single person at home can do what billion dollar companies had to do a decade or so ago.


At least the last time I checked, eBooks at Amazon were not cheaper than the corresponding paperback. In fact I just checked again, and the example book I chose is $19.90 hardback, $11.60 paperback and $14.99 for the Kindle version. This is absurd. In exchange for buying a $200 tablet they'll charge me more money for the book while at the same time saving themselves the cost of printing, distributing and shipping the book. Now, granted it may be favorable to some people to use an eBook reader rather than a physical book - personally I'm still on the fence - but as a pure exercise in cost savings, for someone who normally buys paperback books it makes no sense.


Consider using the library? We have ebooks/paper books for free!


How does one borrow an eBook? Does it simply get deleted from your device after a set # of days, or ?

it would depend.
http://help.overdrive.com/?Sup=http://s ... upport.htm
some ebooks have different formats. that link should help.
the link i gave can be found from here as well: http://scld.org/digital_downloads.asp (just click on "getting started")


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01 Dec 2012, 11:44 am

Yes indeed. We are even slaves to technology if you think about it but nobody wants to open that can of worms.


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02 Dec 2012, 5:32 pm

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Yes indeed. We are even slaves to technology if you think about it but nobody wants to open that can of worms.


I do have to say though that I like technology in the fact that I can use wrongplanet and the internet. I also like technology for ordering books and things online, and getting audiobooks/playaways.


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02 Dec 2012, 9:14 pm

Technology > living in the woods, eating worms and berries.

If you disagree, turn off your computer and go built a hut in the forest. Have fun.


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02 Dec 2012, 9:46 pm

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Technology > living in the woods, eating worms and berries.

If you disagree, turn off your computer and go built a hut in the forest. Have fun.


All the good wilderness is gone. Civilization was built on top of it precisely because all the best resources were there.


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02 Dec 2012, 10:28 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
Technology > living in the woods, eating worms and berries.

If you disagree, turn off your computer and go built a hut in the forest. Have fun.


All the good wilderness is gone. Civilization was built on top of it precisely because all the best resources were there.


"Wilderness" exists in abundance.

Go build a hut and have a wild time.


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03 Dec 2012, 2:25 pm

Did paperbacks eliminate hardcovers?
Did the phonograph eliminate sheet music?
Did radio elminate the LP?
Did television eliminate radio?
Did the VCR eliminate cinemas?

Technology and innovation change the market, to be sure. But printed books and movies recorded on physical media not die out, yet.


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