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08 Dec 2012, 1:37 am

Tiranasta wrote:

What I want to know is why people choose to take offense at things/comments by other people that they know were meant to be offensive. It's like eagerly throwing your face into the fist of the guy trying to punch you.

some people just can't resist. maybe as children they would've flunked the "marshmallow" test.

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08 Dec 2012, 9:52 pm

auntblabby wrote:

Tiranasta wrote:

some people just can't resist. maybe as children they would've flunked the "marshmallow" test.

"marshmallow" test?

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08 Dec 2012, 10:41 pm

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"marshmallow" test?

It's a test of patience, essentially. The child is offered a marshmallow, and they're told that they can eat it whenever they want, but they are rewarded for waiting (the longer they wait, the better the reward). It's a good predictor of the child's future success.

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09 Dec 2012, 12:54 am

Evinceo wrote:

Keniichi wrote:

"marshmallow" test?

it's a way of testing the quality of the child's frontal lobes, the smarter kids can defer gratification for a greater reward. the duller kids fail then as well as for the rest of their miserable lives.

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09 Dec 2012, 4:33 am

Eh, I don't think the why is really important in this case, all you can control is how you react to things, not how other people do. My attitude towards the PC and overly sensitive is f*ck 'em if they can't take a joke, and double f*ck 'em if they have a problem with that. :lol:

Really, it's the healthy way to see things, otherwise you'll spend too much time second guessing yourself and worrying too much about perceptions that you have no way of knowing and even less way of controlling. Also, most people are a bit crazy.

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09 Dec 2012, 7:33 am

It's all that political correctness BS gone crazy.

If I'm talking about a black person, I'll describe them as a black person, as that's what they are. It doesn't mean they are any different on the inside, but they do have a different skin color, and it helps to identify a person easier.

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09 Dec 2012, 9:39 am

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If I'm talking about a black person, I'll describe them as a black person, as that's what they are.

i have never seen a completely black person. i have seen people who's skin is the same shade as dark boot polish, but i never saw a completely black person.
maybe very dark brown people complain about being called "black" because they feel they have been misidentified.
i am not interested in what color skin other people think i have (i am white). if they do not have a sensible reply to what i say to them, then i do not value their ensuing comments

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09 Dec 2012, 10:19 am

b9 wrote:

TrainofLove wrote:

If I'm talking about a black person, I'll describe them as a black person, as that's what they are.

i have never seen a completely black person. i have seen people who's skin is the same shade as dark boot polish, but i never saw a completely black person.

Tom M'boya of Kenya (I met him once) was black like ebony. A full blood African. Many American blacks descent (3 or 4 generations back) from mix mating of black African slaves with their white owners.

I met Tom when he was young. He was later assassinated. African politics can be very rough.

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09 Dec 2012, 11:03 am

ruveyn wrote:

b9 wrote:

TrainofLove wrote:

If I'm talking about a black person, I'll describe them as a black person, as that's what they are.

i have never seen a completely black person. i have seen people who's skin is the same shade as dark boot polish, but i never saw a completely black person.

that is very sad, but were the palms of his hands as black as the rest of him? i have noticed that the palms of the hands of very black people are not black but pink.

i am reverend in respect of your obvious admiration of the black person you mentioned.

i am thought of as racist in many arenas, and my curiosity is the thing that makes me seem racist in all circumstances.

if someone is desperately unhappy with who they are, it can never be blamed on me.

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09 Dec 2012, 5:23 pm

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Keniichi, do you describe your white friends as white? i.e. do you say something like, "oh, you should meet my friend. she's tall, white, has green eyes."? i sincerely doubt it. that's what makes it racist in some people's eyes.

white is the default skintone and everything else requires a descriptor (as evidenced by the fact that people are not described as white in our culture - white people are just "people"; black people are "black people"). this makes white appear to be "normal" and everything else appear to be "different". pointing it out in conversation when it isn't necessary (and it is rarely necessary) can be perceived as racist.

Exactly.
I've noticed that some people only mention someone's race when they are not white.
"That black dude..." "That Asian girl..." "That Indian lady..." even when it's completely unnecessary.
So when I talk to those people who do that, I sometimes (passive-aggressively) do the same but only when talking about someone who is white.
"You know that white guy who just started working at the coffee shop?"
"A white woman just moved in next door to me."
They probably think I'm being racist because I'm not white.

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12 Dec 2012, 12:24 pm

They should just...[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y[/youtube]

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12 Dec 2012, 5:19 pm

Yuzu wrote:

hyperlexian wrote:

I refer to people by race when it's actually a reasonable way to identify them. Sometimes that means describing people as white, sometimes it would just be silly. More often the latter. That's just statistics.

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