Why do so many Canadians and Americans hate eachother?

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11 Dec 2012, 7:21 am

Because all Canadians have beady eyes and heads that flap up and down. Simple.



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11 Dec 2012, 8:10 am

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Why do so many Canadians and Americans hate each other?

this is an other example of thoughtlessness with respect to words used to convey a thought.

the question could be taken to mean "why do so many canadians hate each other and why do so many americans hate each other".

every sentence i hear or read is somewhat ambiguous until i apply my learned reasoning to it.

anyway i can not answer you actual question because i am not interested in it.



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11 Dec 2012, 8:32 am

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But i do think that its the canadians who have an attitude about the USA- for much the same reason Mexicans do ( "we are so far from god, and so close to the USA"- as mexicans say) because they are weak countries next door to a giant. In contrast americans dont resent canada. Indeed, like Marilyn Monroe ( "when they said 'canada' I thought it would be in woods somewhere") and Al Capone ( "I dont even know what street Canada is on!")most americans just dont have thoughts about Canada at all.


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11 Dec 2012, 8:39 am

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I dont get why so many Canadians and Americans hate eachother were not that different from eachother. I like Canadians sometimes more than other Americans!


There is more bad feeling between the north and south USA than there is between the whole USA and Canada.

And (I imagine) more issues between the Quebecois and the Anglophones of Canada then between canadians as a whole and americas as a whole.

But i do think that its the canadians who have an attitude about the USA- for much the same reason Mexicans do ( "we are so far from god, and so close to the USA"- as mexicans say) because they are weak countries next door to a giant. In contrast americans dont resent canada. Indeed, like Marilyn Monroe ( "when they said 'canada' I thought it would be in woods somewhere") and Al Capone ( "I dont even know what street Canada is on!")most americans just dont have thoughts about Canada at all.
Some people wish for Quebec to spilt. I never knoew people are so ignorant regarding Canada. It's right beside the US and it's large!



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11 Dec 2012, 10:16 am

I don't know anyone who hates Canada.



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11 Dec 2012, 12:42 pm

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Americans are jealous of the Canadian healthcare system ...

Where are you getting these Americans? I don't see many Americans going to Canada to get medical attention, but many Canadians go to the US for faster and better care.

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uploaded ... ff0712.pdf

When referred to a specialist, Americans are usually seen within a couple weeks (if not days). In Canada, the average wait time is 19 weeks.

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uploaded ... n-2011.pdf

Americans certainly have some problems with healthcare, but I don't see any evidence to suggest that Canada's system is superior.



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11 Dec 2012, 2:10 pm

adb wrote:
YippySkippy wrote:
Americans are jealous of the Canadian healthcare system ...

Where are you getting these Americans? I don't see many Americans going to Canada to get medical attention, but many Canadians go to the US for faster and better care.

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uploaded ... ff0712.pdf


We see plenty of Americans coming up to Canada for less expensive care of equivalent quality.

Remember, too, that health care is not limited to doctors and hospitals. How many Americans rely on Canadian pharmacies for their drugs? That price advantage also extends to almost every consumer product with a medical application. Our system provides the same product at 3/4 the price.

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When referred to a specialist, Americans are usually seen within a couple weeks (if not days). In Canada, the average wait time is 19 weeks.

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uploaded ... n-2011.pdf


From a medical perspective, this is not always a bad thing.

Most people visit a family doctor (if they have one, that is) in situations in which they are unwell--not merely their primary condition, but also physical fatigue which many contraindicate aggressive therapy. Many people who die on the operating table do so because they were not physically strong enough to withstand the stress of the operation that they were undertaking.

In non-life threatening cases, it is often best to defer therapy, and provide maintenance care until a person is strong enough to deal with the rigour of aggressive therapy. Some of the longest wait times in Canada are in orthopaedic cases. Given the choice between having a knee replacement next week, and dying under anaethesia, or having a knee replacement in three months, after your family doctor has helped you get you strength up, which is the smarter medical choice?

Now, not all waits are good, to be sure. But where it really counts, like oncology and cardiovascular cases, our wait times are not substantially different than yours--and they often prove superior when they are normalized for community size.

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Americans certainly have some problems with healthcare, but I don't see any evidence to suggest that Canada's system is superior.


We have our own problems. One that we both share is a paucity of family doctors. Both of us have far too few of them, and that creates great difficulty for people who are trying to establish primary care. Our medical professions have both been far too slow to take on board the services that can (and should) be provided through the agency of nurse practitioners, and other altenative care providers.

But when you get right down to it, we have longer life expectancy than you. We have lower infant mortality than you. And we accomplish this spending less of our GDP on health. Our governments spend less per capita than your governments do, and within that lower amount of spending, we manage to provide universal, medically necessary coverage.

In all substantive areas but one, there is really little difference between our medical systems. But there is one thing that I believe makes our system superior to yours. And that is found in those last eight words. We manage to provide universal, medically necessary coverage. The singular, appalling failure of your system has been the number of uninsured. But you seem to be on your way to addressing that, which gives me great hope.


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11 Dec 2012, 2:35 pm

The Canadians have low drug prices the the U.S. has shorter waiting lines to use high tech medical instruments. It sounds like the beginning of a beautiful friendship.

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11 Dec 2012, 3:04 pm

Because United Empire Loyalists were a key, cultural "fragment" in the development of Canada's political culture. UEL had a bit of hostility to people who tried to tar and feather 'em, you see.

Also, there was the War of 1812 (apparently, Canada still had defence plans focused on how to ward off an American invasion up to the 1920s).


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11 Dec 2012, 3:07 pm

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Because United Empire Loyalists were a key, cultural "fragment" in the development of Canada's political culture. UEL had a bit of hostility to people who tried to tar and feather 'em, you see.

Also, there was the War of 1812 (apparently, Canada still had defence plans focused on how to ward off an American invasion up to the 1920s).


The behavior of United Stateseans during the was of 1812 gave the Canadians good reason to be on the lookout. U.S. types invaded York (later to become Toronto) and trashed some government buildings. The Brits returned the favor by burning the President's House in Washington City. That was fair return for an ill deed.

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11 Dec 2012, 3:21 pm

Tequila wrote:
Because all Canadians have beady eyes and heads that flap up and down. Simple.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA[/youtube] Hehe I couldnt resist! But in reality I see a lot of ignorant americans saying canadas socialist and they all speak french. Im like wtf they have never been to or studied about Canada if they think that. Most of the French speakers live on the eastern portion while the west is all English and even the French speakers speak English! I spent my fair share of years in Texas and was talking about going to Canada and most the people say Canada sucks and are french speakers! To avoid pissing those idiots off and correcting them *because they are very stubborn* I just walk away!Im guessing its mainly the people from the south and midwest who think that way though.


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11 Dec 2012, 6:25 pm

I live near the border in the U.S, and I like Canadians. They like coming here. We like having them. I live a few hours outside a very large Canadian metro, and the U.S. is far cheaper, especially with a strong looney. I pick up Canadian radio, and some pick up Canadian TV. Apart from a few different pronunciations, they are just like us.
Except they aren't like the U.S. at all. Different regions of Canada may be more similar to proximate parts of the U.S. than each other (I hear this is the case with Vancouver and Seattle), but they are very proud to be NOT American. The earliest Anglo Canadian settlers were loyalists during our revolution. And since they had to ask the UK parliament for permission to change their constitution back in the 1980s, I can't help wonder if they still feel British on some level.

And let's not forget Quebec, which isn't even remotely similar to the U.S.



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11 Dec 2012, 6:48 pm

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I don't know anyone who hates Canada.


Neither do I. I think Canada as several advantages over the U.S. To use the phrase that President Bush I uttered frequently, I think in many respects, Canada is the Kinder, Gentler America. Canadians did not have a divisive Civil War and things went much better for the Original People of Canada than for the various Indian Nations in the U.S. The 19th century was the U.S. Century for genocide. Happily we got out of that miserable habit. But the descendants of the aboriginal people still suffer many disadvantages. Also our Canadian brethren are not foolishly fighting the Forever War as we in the U.S. are.

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11 Dec 2012, 7:33 pm

Tequila wrote:
Because all Canadians have beady eyes and heads that flap up and down. Simple.
Is that a joke or sarcasm?



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11 Dec 2012, 8:16 pm

Maybe not now, but remember shortly after 9-11 when the USA declared war and called on everyone else to follow in line behind them? Canada and France initially said no... we god "freedom fries" and Canada-hate for a while after that. :roll:

Glad that much is over... but pity we're still over there.



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11 Dec 2012, 8:20 pm

EtherealBallet wrote:
Tequila wrote:
Because all Canadians have beady eyes and heads that flap up and down. Simple.
Is that a joke or sarcasm?


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