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07 Jan 2013, 2:10 pm

Perhaps people get into fierce debates about God because they have a lot vested in his existence, and a large number of people believe in him. Unicorns are a fringe interest, and people who do believe in them don't have as much riding on them as many theists.



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07 Jan 2013, 2:16 pm

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Do you think that atheists are possessed by demons?


Prove that demons exist and then we'll talk.


Folks who doubt the existence of demons are...DEMONICALLY POSSESSED!



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07 Jan 2013, 2:34 pm

When some people talk about God, some will usually nod in approval or dismiss it.
Jesus is God with a face, not the fill-in-the-blank variety we conform to our own tastes, you can't twist, distort or stuff it in your back pocket.
That sometimes bothers people.


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07 Jan 2013, 4:27 pm

No, no I don't. However, I do believe that demons do work their ''miracles'', to try to gather as many as possible from God's hands. So...are they possessed? No. Can they be influenced to see religions as man-made things? Yep.



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07 Jan 2013, 9:13 pm

Atheists are possessed by the demon of reason.



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07 Jan 2013, 11:48 pm

TallyMan wrote:
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Do you think that atheists are possessed by demons?


No but I think your Mentally Ill.


I don't know about that, but he's been banned for trolling.


Did a demon-possessed atheist ban him?


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08 Jan 2013, 1:08 am

I am currently possessed by the demon rum. Does that count?



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08 Jan 2013, 2:45 am

God isn't real! If he is then he's like a sadistic blend between saw and Kim Jong Ill only invisible and immortal. He knew satan was going to be evil yet created him and knew Adam and Eve would eat his stash but created the tree anyway then allowed a flood killing off 99% of all people and his way of love is knocking up a virgin to create a mortal version of himself to be tortured and killed for all to see. If he loved us and is all knowing and perfect, he wouldn't have bothered with all of that in the first place. Also because I question his authority and have free will to do so I will be tossed into the fiery depths of hell for his enjoyment. There is no proof and I doubt there will be proof he exists, god is only made up to explain what science hasn't proven yet and to keep people in fear and feel comfort at the same time also to control peoples will.


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08 Jan 2013, 3:47 am

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I have to admit that it is an unanswerable question as to why some people are stubborn atheists when there is God.


Simply because there is no evidence that there is a god. There is also no evidence that unicorns and fairies exist outside of folklore and legend - am I stubborn for not believing in those too?


Well, people don't usually argue about unicorns and fairies. There's something about God that provokes people into fierce debates about him. This something must be his existence. – Oh yes, I know. You can always say "This something must be his non-existence." But wouldn't even you admit that the non-existence of God would be different from the non-existence of unicorns and fairies?

People in Iceland get into quite hot debates about the existence, or lack thereof, of fairies. The reason that we debate gods so much is because lots of people believe in them, and lots of people wish to drive social policy based on that belief.



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08 Jan 2013, 3:57 am

LKL wrote:
Krabo wrote:
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Krabo wrote:
I have to admit that it is an unanswerable question as to why some people are stubborn atheists when there is God.


Simply because there is no evidence that there is a god. There is also no evidence that unicorns and fairies exist outside of folklore and legend - am I stubborn for not believing in those too?


Well, people don't usually argue about unicorns and fairies. There's something about God that provokes people into fierce debates about him. This something must be his existence. – Oh yes, I know. You can always say "This something must be his non-existence." But wouldn't even you admit that the non-existence of God would be different from the non-existence of unicorns and fairies?

People in Iceland get into quite hot debates about the existence, or lack thereof, of fairies. The reason that we debate gods so much is because lots of people believe in them, and lots of people wish to drive social policy based on that belief.
I guess its fun to believe but sometimes there comes that time when the parents have to tell their kids there is no Santa Clause, Easter Bunny, Tooth fairy, Sandman, Jack Frost, or Boogeyman..


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08 Jan 2013, 9:08 am

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God isn't real! If he is then he's like a sadistic blend between saw and Kim Jong Ill only invisible and immortal.


The only qualitative difference between Kim Jong Ill and the "God" you are referring to is;
What Kim Jong Ill says, everyone must follow.
Kimg Jong Illl determines everyone's future in North Korea
You cannot actively challenge Kim Jong Ill's position, otherwise, you'll be shot.

The "God" you are referring to accepts challenges and encourages scrutiny.

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08 Jan 2013, 1:48 pm

NAKnight wrote:
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God isn't real! If he is then he's like a sadistic blend between saw and Kim Jong Ill only invisible and immortal.


The only qualitative difference between Kim Jong Ill and the "God" you are referring to is;
What Kim Jong Ill says, everyone must follow.
Kimg Jong Illl determines everyone's future in North Korea
You cannot actively challenge Kim Jong Ill's position, otherwise, you'll be shot.

The "God" you are referring to accepts challenges and encourages scrutiny.

Best Regards,

Jake

What God says, everyone must follow (because he is all powerful, created the world, forms us in our mother's wombs and sustains the world)
We cannot challenge God's position, otherwise, we'll go to hell. Besides, He knows we are going to challenge Him when He makes us.



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08 Jan 2013, 3:27 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
What God says, everyone must follow (because he is all powerful, created the world, forms us in our mother's wombs and sustains the world)
We cannot challenge God's position, otherwise, we'll go to hell. Besides, He knows we are going to challenge Him when He makes us.


That is a very bleak take on it.
Because Jesus died on the cross, we won't go to hell (That includes me and you)
He put down his life so you and I can have the conversation.
If you don't beleive in a "Hell" than it's a place where you'll be seperated from "God" if you will.



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We cannot Challenge God's Position


Yes you can, it's called free will.
God is not pointing a philosophical "Gun" in your face.

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Besides, He knows we are going to challenge Him when He makes us.


And that's where salvation and grace comes in.

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09 Jan 2013, 4:31 am

Any form of music or entertainment that does not glorify god is considered evil, this is what Christians tell me every day!He must be an attention whore! Its like worship me and love me 24/7 or i shall throw a tantrum and smite you and send you to hell for eternity for my book and I tell you so![youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEC0_rEgvRA[/youtube]


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09 Jan 2013, 4:40 am

The first sign of demonic possession is denial -that you're demonically possessed.



Everyone who is not demonically possessed just admits to it!



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09 Jan 2013, 4:45 am

naturalplastic wrote:
The first sign of demonic possession is denial -that you're demonically possessed.



Everyone who is not demonically possessed just admits to it!
What if...what if I am so evil that the demon that tried to possess me ended up becoming possessed by me?...Or what if I am a demon and I dont know it? :o


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