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20 Jan 2013, 2:23 pm

After that recent school shooting, I read some of the comments from gun advocates at news websites like CNN and Yahoo saying the absolute last place you'll get shot is at a gun show. :lmao:



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20 Jan 2013, 2:26 pm

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After that recent school shooting, I read some of the comments from gun advocates at news websites like CNN and Yahoo saying the absolute last place you'll get shot is at a gun show. :lmao:


yes, it's funny stuff.



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20 Jan 2013, 2:30 pm

Mostly it will be existing gun owners buying more guns. Either for hoarding or hobbyists... or speculators who think they can turn a buck if things get rarer.



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20 Jan 2013, 2:42 pm

:roll: :roll:
I've been to a lot of gun shows. Driving to them is always more dangerous.
Right now gun shows are packed so therefor the chance of an AD (Accidental Discharge) increases in proportion.
We had one AD at a big gun show in the next county over but no one got hurt. The state troopers arrested that guy on the spot since loaded guns in any gun show are strictly prohibited.


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20 Jan 2013, 2:45 pm

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Mostly it will be existing gun owners buying more guns. Either for hoarding or hobbyists... or speculators who think they can turn a buck if things get rarer.


Actually there are a lot of first time buyers getting them, too.
They figure they'd better while the getting is good.
Personally, I can't see much in the form of legislation being passed. It would be career suicide for politicians from most states worth living in.


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20 Jan 2013, 2:57 pm

Raptor wrote:
:roll: :roll:
I've been to a lot of gun shows. Driving to them is always more dangerous.
Right now gun shows are packed so therefor the chance of an AD (Accidental Discharge) increases in proportion.
We had one AD at a big gun show in the next county over but no one got hurt. The state troopers arrested that guy on the spot since loaded guns in any gun show are strictly prohibited.


Those jack-booted Nazis violated his Second Amendment Rites! :shameonyou:



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20 Jan 2013, 3:23 pm

Did someone hear something from under the bridge?


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20 Jan 2013, 4:51 pm

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Rest assured, if fire arms are banned there will be bootlegging a-plenty.

And even more people will die in a hail of lead from warfare between rival gangs trying to corner the illegal fire arms market.

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do your native gangs have the eptitude to bootleg firearms?

FYI we have rival gangs in the UK but there is no such bootleg firearms market despite guns being illegal. The empirical experience suggests you are incorrect.

The only exception was the IRA who had the knowledge to build homemade sub machine guns but those boys were operating on an entirely different level to the crips and the bloods.


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20 Jan 2013, 4:53 pm

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Rest assured, if fire arms are banned there will be bootlegging a-plenty.

And even more people will die in a hail of lead from warfare between rival gangs trying to corner the illegal fire arms market.

ruveyn


do your native gangs have the eptitude to bootleg firearms?

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We now have Russian mobsters in the U.S. Rest assured. We 'merkins can do the job. If we can put a man on the Moon we can create vast criminal empires to produce and distribute illegal firearms.

You Euros have a snooty attitude and you underestimate us Yanks. Which is ingratitude since we save Europe three time during the 20 th century.

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20 Jan 2013, 4:59 pm

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We now have Russian mobsters in the U.S.

surely then the credit belongs to the Russians?
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Rest assured. We 'merkins can do the job. If we can put a man on the Moon we can create vast criminal empires to produce and distribute illegal firearms.

I realise that, but the ones with the ability to develop ballistic rockets arent the ones languishing in inner city ghettos like Harlem with incomplete educations. Unless there is a 'hood' at cape canaveral I am unaware of.
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You Euros have a snooty attitude and you underestimate us Yanks. Which is ingratitude since we save Europe three time during the 20 th century.

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britain could have sat those wars out if she had chosen. Go and ask the French for your gratitude,


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20 Jan 2013, 5:03 pm

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britain could have sat those wars out if she had chosen. Go and ask the French for your gratitude,


A grateful Frog? That will be the day.

If Britain had sat out the war, you guys would be living under a proto fascist dictatorship. But heck, you have a democratic form of fascism with a smile. And to think, Britain once brought Progress and Industry to the world. What have you produced lately.

But don't worry. The U.S. is twenty years behind you guys on the same downward trajectory.

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20 Jan 2013, 5:12 pm

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A grateful Frog? That will be the day.

If Britain had sat out the war, you guys would be living under a proto fascist dictatorship. But heck, you have a democratic form of fascism with a smile. And to think, Britain once brought Progress and Industry to the world. What have you produced lately.


Not necessarilly, we could have done what the Republic of Ireland and Switzerland did and remained neutral. The nazis, despite being genocidal bastards had the good graces to acknowledge the borders of non participants. I suspect our being bombed to hell took the wind out of our sails on the economic and innovation front. I saw 'we' but I only loosely identify as British these days.

what it boils down to is that the latter 2 decades of the 20th century was a screw up from start to finish. We should never have held the Germans to ransom with the Versailles treaty repayments.
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But don't worry. The U.S. is twenty years behind you guys on the same downward trajectory.
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i think 20 years is being a bit optimistic.


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20 Jan 2013, 7:02 pm

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Not necessarilly, we could have done what the Republic of Ireland and Switzerland did and remained neutral. The nazis, despite being genocidal bastards had the good graces to acknowledge the borders of non participants. I suspect our being bombed to hell took the wind out of our sails on the economic and innovation front. I saw 'we' but I only loosely identify as British these days.


Germany had planned to invade Switzerland and annex it. It was called Operation Tannenbaum but they never got around to it executing it. One of the reasons is because of the terrain and that behind every tree and on every ridge there would be Swiss marksman with a rifle. The cost would have been too great.


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21 Jan 2013, 8:23 pm

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I'm just glad I got my 9mm before all of this (albeit its arcing brass out in the wrong direction :? ). I do feel kinda bad though that I missed out on getting my hands on an AR-15, no doubt those things will nearly double in value for a while.

I don't know about the AR-15, but my M4 has already doubled in value in the week after the chatter about a new ban began.


Same thing, unless you are talking about an FA M4 with a pre-86 lower and sear.

There are differences, albeit minor. I was uncertain if any of these minor differences severely impacted marketability (like how Kalashnikov-pattern guns from some countries fetch higher prices than others).



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23 Jan 2013, 4:49 am

...I don't want to live in this country anymore.


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23 Jan 2013, 4:56 am

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...I don't want to live in this country anymore.


I'll swap you.

I wouldn't mind not having to fill out stupid forms after stupid forms each time I want to purchase a firearm.