Should mentally disabled killers facing death be executed?

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If you look at human nature killing is apart of it, it can't be eradicated from the gene pool either because everyone has this in them to some extent, the only way we would resolve it is by following rules. That's why religion isn't such a bad idea for stupid people. Not to say that it's for stupid people - but if the unintelligent follow it then there's a lot less problems with them as they are more likely to kill due to not understanding stuff properly.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/scie ... 35491.html

I agree!

We can capable of doing something, but there are rules we need to follow, otherwise the world would not look good at all.

The thread is about IQ deficits rather than psychosis.

At least 35 people classified as diagnosed with "Mental retardation" have been executed in the US as of 2010.
On June 20, 2002, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Atkins v. Virginia that executing people with intellectual disabilities violated the Eighth Amendment prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment,
https://www.aclu.org/other/intellectual ... th-penalty

I am sorry for sounding off topic, but even then, I still have NT sense of right and wrong, even though I have lower IQ, ADHD and Autism.

I get it, other stuff that has nothing to do with autism or IQ like psychopathy that made those other people kill.

I thought that it is possible Autistic people ( people like us ) to suffer from mental health problems than the general population.


Is Antisocial Personality Disorder a mental disorder?


Because, there are websites saying that Autistic people are more likely to do this, but statistics says otherwise.


I feel so confused, because what if it is possible of criminals to be diagnosed with any developmental disorders?


For example, let's just say that the diagnostic criteria for ASD will be changed so much to the point were even more people will be diagnosed with ASD.

How will that change how the scientists view criminal statistics?


I have so many questions.


I even asked the same questions to my dad, but he still explained to me that some sites who say about Autistic people is a lie and that I should rely on what statistics say and he also explained to me that no matter what, even if I was a criminal, large percentage of other people with developmental disorders are still more likely to be victims of crimes than commit them.

We have a US supreme law against executing those with intellectual impairments so no, they shouldn't be executed or else why even have that law if they are still gonna do it?

It's junk science they use to dismiss their intellectual impairment.

In theory a person with a mental defect "cannot" be put to death. But where the line is drawn between a person with low intelligence but not technically intellectually disabled and legally intellectually disabled is an area of debate.

Also where is the line drawn between a convicted killer with some mental health issues and what is legal insanity,these are debated issues.
No person clearly defined as legally intellectually disabled or legally insane can never be put to death.

I wander what will happen if a killer only had a learning disability


Does the law care about people with average IQ, but have some form of developmental disorder?

Any mental disease or defect must be profound to get a "not guilty by reason of mental defect or insanity" verdict.Even then like the guy that shot Reagan,John Hinkley Jr. spent 30 years in a secure hospital before being released.

An insanity or intellectual disability verdict is still no picnic and state run hospitals are disgusting and people get left in dirty soiled underwear for hours before nurses change them.People have said the smell of the ward on a secure hospital would kick you back ten feet,there just absolutely disgusting places to spend 10-30 years.

A mild learning or mental health issue could get some mitigation at sentence but could not get you a "not guilty by mental defect" verdict but like I said those verdicts aren't much better than prison.

Even if you knew from right and wrong, you should still not be found guilty, because of your mental health issues, developmental disorders or both

I think that even if you knew from right and wrong, you should still get checked for any health issues, just in case

Maybe so but not how the law reads.

It makes sense

But here is the thing.
When the laws concerning mental disease and defect were written people had more conservative definitions of what mental disease or defect meant.

A lot if people found mentally competent and legally guilty today would have been found insane in the 1950's.

Today it's no big deal to know someone who has some degree of mental health issue and takes medicine but in say the 1940's that would been considered a very serious problem.

The mental health laws should really be updated to suite the times.

The legal definition of insanity is barking at the moon mad right?

But barking at the moon mad when these laws were written,would not be seen as so serious today.So there needs to be an adjustment of modern definition of insanity.

While mentally disabled killers know right from wrong, it's HOW wrong it is to them. Wrong as in the sense of comparing it to stealing someone's car? Well if a mentally handicapped person thought murder was on the same level of car theft then they in my eyes they're clearly to stupid to execute.