08 Mar 2013, 11:03 pm
09 Mar 2013, 8:31 am
Raptor wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
I don't think he's trolling, that's probably a heartfelt belief. I don't want to pay people to dig ditches or play flutes in the park obviously but I agree that it is small potatoes compared to our reprehensible military imperialism abroad and our growing police state at home under the guise of "homeland security." While cuts to social programs/welfare are unavoidable, they should certainly come after the most immoral parts of government.
I didn't name an individual.
To do so would be a personal attack and we can't have that, now........
You're still way out of line!
But, yes, compared to $800,000,000,000 for the Iraq war, money spent on the arts is nothing.
One would think that a good many contract employees should be able to survive in the private sector that they hold so dear. And, they really don't do anything useful, compared to the artists and poets who elevate men's souls.
09 Mar 2013, 8:17 pm
ArrantPariah wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
I don't think he's trolling, that's probably a heartfelt belief. I don't want to pay people to dig ditches or play flutes in the park obviously but I agree that it is small potatoes compared to our reprehensible military imperialism abroad and our growing police state at home under the guise of "homeland security." While cuts to social programs/welfare are unavoidable, they should certainly come after the most immoral parts of government.
I didn't name an individual.
To do so would be a personal attack and we can't have that, now........
ArrantPariah wrote:
You're still way out of line!
So tattle on me. It won't be the first time.
ArrantPariah wrote:
But, yes, compared to $800,000,000,000 for the Iraq war, money spent on the arts is nothing.
Probably an inflated BS figure but either way I could have had it done for far less than whatever it did cost.
I, being a conservative, might have even made us and our allies a tidy profit from it.
ArrantPariah wrote:
One would think that a good many contract employees should be able to survive in the private sector that they hold so dear. And, they really don't do anything useful, compared to the artists and poets who elevate men's souls.
In the real world an income is more elevating to the soul than art ever was.
09 Mar 2013, 9:07 pm
Raptor wrote:
So tattle on me. It won't be the first time.
You're gonna be in TROUBLE!! !
Raptor wrote:
Probably an inflated BS figure but either way I could have had it done for far less than whatever it did cost.
I, being a conservative, might have even made us and our allies a tidy profit from it.
I, being a conservative, might have even made us and our allies a tidy profit from it.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/201 ... -you-think
I suppose that since President Bush payed for the war through borrowing, Conservatives could argue that the war didn't cost a dime.
Raptor wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
One would think that a good many contract employees should be able to survive in the private sector that they hold so dear. And, they really don't do anything useful, compared to the artists and poets who elevate men's souls.
In the real world an income is more elevating to the soul than art ever was.So, let's cut loose the military contractors, and instead give incomes to artists and poets.
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09 Mar 2013, 10:17 pm
thomas81 wrote:
Raptor wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
Just to put the shoe on the other foot momentarilly, would right wingers be keen to leave gun makers to obscurity if their incomes couldnt support them?
Their incomes support them quite well or they'd get into another business.
what would you do if the gun manufacturers started moving to north korea or iran cause they couldnt float the bills in the states?
Yes, North Korea is so capitalist and gun friendly.
NOT!
Bottom line: If an industry or individual business can't support itself then what good is it?
Besides, several of the existing firearm and firearm accessory manufacturers are based outside of the US.
Examples: Glock, SIG Sauer, H&K, Beretta, FN, CZ, Schmidt & Bender, Swarovski, Sako, to name a few.....
09 Mar 2013, 10:32 pm
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09 Mar 2013, 11:22 pm
Raptor wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Bottom line: If an industry or individual business can't support itself then what good is it?
Just because an industry can support itself does not mean that it is a good industry. Example: cigarette manufacturers.
Just because an industry cannot support itself does not mean that it is a bad industry. Example: roads.
Cigarette manufacturers offer a product and people freely buy enough of it too keep them in business with a profit. That's the whole point of business.
If you don't want them don't buy them.
I don't smoke but I doesn't bother me that other people do. I have no problem with the tobacco industry making a profit from it, either.
That doesn't make it good.
