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14 Mar 2013, 11:17 am

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It's cathlolisism, what exactly can be done differently? it's a religion based on paganism...that persicutes any other religion including paganism. Includes an incomparable level of sexism and bigotry, spreads lies to the un-educated and has many a priest with a tendancy to go buggering the choir boys. Just to name a few things wrong with it.

Honestly I was hoping that a pope would never be chosen and the religion would die off like many before it.


Just give it time. Religions are declining and it is speeding up.



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14 Mar 2013, 3:25 pm

Another new old fart in the same smelly elevator of no actual power and relevance.

...Sorry, let me try that again.

As a notheist, His Holiness isn't of much relevance in the personal opinion of my skeptical eyes; I see society moving away from the shackles of religion, and hopefully reaching towards actual solutions, instead of remaining in a wonderfully inflexible doctrine.


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15 Mar 2013, 3:56 am

i found out why they chose a pope from south america or at least why they chose one not from europe:

there are very few priests or clergymen living in europe because europe is getting so built up and urbanized.there are few places in europe where you can get good housing more then 500 meters from a school or playground


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15 Mar 2013, 12:24 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
i found out why they chose a pope from south america or at least why they chose one not from europe:

there are very few priests or clergymen living in europe because europe is getting so built up and urbanized.there are few places in europe where you can get good housing more then 500 meters from a school or playground


Now be fair. Not all priests are paedophiles. Cardinal O'Brien likes 'em a little older.


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15 Mar 2013, 12:38 pm

Thatmew wrote:
Another new old fart in the same smelly elevator of no actual power and relevance.

...Sorry, let me try that again.

As a notheist, His Holiness isn't of much relevance in the personal opinion of my skeptical eyes; I see society moving away from the shackles of religion, and hopefully reaching towards actual solutions, instead of remaining in a wonderfully inflexible doctrine.


The fact that he has no relevance to you doesn't mean he doesn't have it for billions of catholics over the world. That gives him a lot of power, and allows him to influence even non-catholics


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16 Mar 2013, 12:48 am

Shatbat wrote:
Thatmew wrote:
Another new old fart in the same smelly elevator of no actual power and relevance.

...Sorry, let me try that again.

As a notheist, His Holiness isn't of much relevance in the personal opinion of my skeptical eyes; I see society moving away from the shackles of religion, and hopefully reaching towards actual solutions, instead of remaining in a wonderfully inflexible doctrine.


The fact that he has no relevance to you doesn't mean he doesn't have it for billions of catholics over the world. That gives him a lot of power, and allows him to influence even non-catholics


I'm not a Christian, but I do agree he does have a certain level of power and is able to influence people. They all push their homophobia across the world.



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16 Mar 2013, 4:30 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Here's a rather strong opinion:

http://e2.ma/message/atdxf/ugl25f

3/13/2013 20:13 inauguration. I knew the date was weird, thought about that upcoming several months ago but I didn't catch the 8:13 PM thing until I thought of it in military time.


That numerology crap is uttermost nonsense....

ruveyn

Perhaps but, I can't imagine a single way for them to try harder to make numerology happen. Were they thumbing their arses while looking at stop-watches?


Was it 20:13 Vatican time? What's the source?



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16 Mar 2013, 5:32 am

I doubt we'll see anything other than the same old-same old on homosexuality and the ordination of women. Let's see if this Pope puts the rights and safety of children ahead of those of priests.

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16 Mar 2013, 7:44 am

vermontsavant wrote:
there are very few priests or clergymen living in europe because europe is getting so built up and urbanized.there are few places in europe where you can get good housing more then 500 meters from a school or playground


Is it wrong that I had to really look at that picture closely to see that it's not Joseph Ratzinger in civvy clothes?

Europe isn't producing enough Catholics because an increasing number of Europeans are totally and categorically rejecting God.

Religion can only really work its magic on the young, the fanatical, the people on the make and the poor. Without fear, shame and violence, which is the essence of the three Abrahamic religions, religion is doomed to ever-diminishing importance.



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16 Mar 2013, 8:55 am

Tequila wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
there are very few priests or clergymen living in europe because europe is getting so built up and urbanized.there are few places in europe where you can get good housing more then 500 meters from a school or playground


Is it wrong that I had to really look at that picture closely to see that it's not Joseph Ratzinger in civvy clothes?

Europe isn't producing enough Catholics because an increasing number of Europeans are totally and categorically rejecting God.

Religion can only really work its magic on the young, the fanatical, the people on the make and the poor. Without fear, shame and violence, which is the essence of the three Abrahamic religions, religion is doomed to ever-diminishing importance.
like many of my posts,it was purely a joke.i didnt even know there was a real priest shortage in europe. have nothing against catholics,my mom was irish catholic and from the boston area.she had a doctorate in theology from "our lady of the elms"college in chicopee,mass

the picture is father


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16 Mar 2013, 9:01 am

He is a religious leader. That means he means nothing to me.


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16 Mar 2013, 10:18 pm

ruveyn wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
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I was wondering that- what convoluted way someone was going to try to persuade us that this "George of Argentina" who has chosen to call himself "Francis" is somehow really "Peter the Roman" so he fits the Prophecy of St. Malachi.

Thats it?

He just has to be of Italian descent to be 'Peter the Roman'?

If thats the case then more than half the Popes were "Peter the Roman" already!

Yeah, pretty lame. Still, we'll see how interesting or boring life gets in the next three to six months.

I have to admit though, I'm kinda hoping under my breath that some of those 1.6 billion dollars in hollow-points bought by DHA are for people who are big enough jackasses to put at least a year of planning into trying to inauguration someone at 20:13 at 3/13/2013. That's gotta be in the top ten for dumbest things I've ever seen.


aren't you a bit old for numerological childish nonsense?

ruveyn

Ask the Vatican, most of these people are twice my age and then some.



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16 Mar 2013, 10:20 pm

MCalavera wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Here's a rather strong opinion:

http://e2.ma/message/atdxf/ugl25f

3/13/2013 20:13 inauguration. I knew the date was weird, thought about that upcoming several months ago but I didn't catch the 8:13 PM thing until I thought of it in military time.


That numerology crap is uttermost nonsense....

ruveyn

Perhaps but, I can't imagine a single way for them to try harder to make numerology happen. Were they thumbing their arses while looking at stop-watches?


Was it 20:13 Vatican time? What's the source?

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=As5 ... =yfp-t-900



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16 Mar 2013, 10:52 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
I was wondering that- what convoluted way someone was going to try to persuade us that this "George of Argentina" who has chosen to call himself "Francis" is somehow really "Peter the Roman" so he fits the Prophecy of St. Malachi.

Thats it?

He just has to be of Italian descent to be 'Peter the Roman'?

If thats the case then more than half the Popes were "Peter the Roman" already!

Yeah, pretty lame. Still, we'll see how interesting or boring life gets in the next three to six months.

I have to admit though, I'm kinda hoping under my breath that some of those 1.6 billion dollars in hollow-points bought by DHA are for people who are big enough jackasses to put at least a year of planning into trying to inauguration someone at 20:13 at 3/13/2013. That's gotta be in the top ten for dumbest things I've ever seen.


aren't you a bit old for numerological childish nonsense?

ruveyn

Ask the Vatican, most of these people are twice my age and then some.


Ask them WHAT?

If they are too old to play around with numerology?

You just advocated shooting them for IGNORING numerology!



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16 Mar 2013, 11:11 pm

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Ask them WHAT?

If they are too old to play around with numerology?

You just advocated shooting them for IGNORING numerology!

I don't recommend shooting anyone - just expressing how stupid I think it is for people to cram events to fit a time sequence for numerology's sake.

How do you get that I think they ignored numerology? You have to work incredibly hard to get that specific time. For them to just land on that by chance is impossible.



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16 Mar 2013, 11:52 pm

To clarify my comment earlier:

Revelations 17:16 wrote:
And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

The ten kings or administrators which were previously under Mystery Babylon will revolt against her and destroy her. That was my reference regarding the 1.6 billion bullets. I had to clarify that before some incredibly dangerous misunderstandings just presented (ie. as quoted in my post immediately above this one) started taking on a life of their own.

The whole world in that situation will be an incredibly hot mess. The only thing that I can hope for at all is to live my life to the best of my ability, try to stay safe, and pray incessantly hoping that I can survive said period (or die even) with my soul still intact.