Vicious 'anti-Zionist' (ha ha) suspended from UKIP

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You get anti-Zionist Jews. I only know a couple, most of the ones I know support the right of Israel to exist, if only because they have relatives there. Even those Jews will happily criticise the Israeli government.

Nambo: name one of these "elite Zionists" please.

...and also because, in a practical sense, the effective result of 'anti-Zionism' today will probably only ever come about with an invasion and genocide of Israeli Jews. Like the Arab countries wanted to do way back in 1948 and 1967.

Lies. Before the creation of the Israeli state, there was once a peaceful coexistence between arab and jewish Palestinians. There is no way in which the opponents of Israel can force it out of existance. Israel on the other hand, is forcing the area of land self identifying as Palestine out of existance and every year that area is shrinking.

A reformed Zionist academic speaks out and debunks the Israeli historical version.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKGA48MptIY[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JjXI7qDFyk[/youtube]

Rupert Murdock

Rupert Murdoch is Christian you anti-Semitic twit.

http://www.nndb.com/people/420/000023351/

With the occasional sectarian massacres by Arabs pre-Israel, of course. But, hey, what's a pogrom or two between friends?

There's nothing lies about it. Listen to the genocidal rhetoric of Hamas, the Palestinian Authority, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Iran, and much of Egypt's government. They make it crystal clear that they want to annihilate the Israeli state (and in Hamas's case, kill all Jews living there).

From the Hamas Charter, and I quote:



I would like to see a Palestinian people living in free, prosperous, open, genuinely democratic, liberal and tolerant societies - with equal rights between Muslims and non-Muslims, men and women, young and old.
I would like to see a Palestine in where Jewish communities prosper (how many Jews are allowed to live in PA-controlled Areas A and B in Judea and Samaria or Gaza? Both places where it's illegal for Israeli Jews to go for their own safety.)
I would like to see Palestinian people happy, with jobs, homes, peaceful lives, living in peace and in harmony with their Israeli neighbours.
I would like to see the Arab emnity towards Israel ending completely. I would like to see Israelis being as welcome in Arab countries as Arabs can be in Israel.
I would like to see the Israelis sharing their expertise with Arab countries, and by doing so, making the region a healthier, more prosperous, and freer place for everyone.
I would like to see Arabs coming to work, play and settle in Israel.
I would love to see Jews and Christians being able to settle in Saudi Arabia as full citizens and freedom of religion in every sense of the word.

I want to see freedom and independence and love for everyone.

The hate is imprisoning Palestinians and making them resentful and miserable, and it is harming Israelis too that have to live with the effects of it.

By the way, your map is a load of lies. For a start, the Palestinians didn't have any land of their own until 1993! The identity wasn't commonly in use until the mid-1960s (they were just Arabs before that time) and they have been colonised in one form or another by various powers in any case, and largely did not own their own land.

See here for the reasons why this is so.

Can I ask you why Israel simply gave up the entire Sinai Peninsula (this had been taken from Egypt in the Six-Day War) to Egypt in 1979? That land was extremely rich and would have made the Israelis unbelievably wealthy - it was rich in natural resources! - had they not signed it back to Egypt in exchange for peace.

Oh, and George "I don't debate Israelis" Galloway and all round lover of Hamas and Islamic jihadism and dodgy Islamic dictators around the world? Seriously?!

Ilian Pappe has been shown to lie about historical facts before for political reasons (he falsified and used prominently a 'quote' purportedly said by David Ben-Gurion in 1937 which his sources don't back up). Benny Morris excoriated Pappe last year, saying that "at best, Ilan Pappe must be one of the world’s sloppiest historians; at worst, one of the most dishonest. In truth, he probably merits a place somewhere between the two."

I'm surprised you don't bring up Shlomo Sand, Richard Silverstein, Gilad Atzmon, Israel Shamir, Roger Garaudy and all the other fruitcakes.

A quick word of warning to Tequila.

I am in contact with members of UKIP who are well aware of your presence on WP and have been before I joined last year. They have no idea who you are but they take it in good faith that you are a paid up member of UKIP rather than a supporter posing as a member. All of them express concern that you regularly post material that highlights your views as being extremist, and in some cases, are out on a limb compared to the more conventional UKIP ideology. The volume of your postings makes you look like a propagandist and the question of where you find all the time to search news sources for material to post on WP needs an answer. Do you lead a double life - one whilst in the real world and another under a pseudonym on the internet - or do other UKIP members approve of what you post on WP? So far these UKIP members have kept the knowledge of your presence on WP to themselves and a few other trusted individuals but they could take it to a higher level in the party in the future because they think you have a potential to be a liability.

OK then gobshite, who am I?

Nice of you to do this threatening stuff publicly, Arran.

What the hell does your sig mean? It's a bit weird, isn't it? Google is not my fwend.

The Catholic Mass finishes with 'The Mass has ended; go home in peace'.

Quite.

The question didnt say name one of these elite Jews, it said, name one of these "elite Zionists", maybe you havent heard of Christian Zionists? and their belief that the Jews taking over Palestine today is a fulfillment of Bible prophesy and therefore Gods will?
There are probably a lot more Christian Zionists than Jewish ones, and the Jewish ones dont look like they have a hell of a lot of Semitic blood in them to me anyway.

Maybe you would like to make yourself look better now on WP by apologising?

It's not a threat. All I'm doing is informing Tequila that the watchful eyes of other UKIP members have noticed his presence on WP and they have cause for concern. Don't shoot me. I'm only the messenger.