Signs your "theory" might be wrong....

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I think you are misunderstanding my point...

I am making a few different points though so it might not be clear...

In the last post I am trying to get across what Mills' motives might actually be and how it might tie into other things I have revealed...

Ok, maybe it would be beneficial for all of us, yourself included, if you could elucidate just what, exactly, your point(s) is, beyond the classically conspiracist, 'everything you know is wrong.'

As for how you control things on YouTube, something you mentioned in an earlier post: the quickest and easiest way, which doesn't require any government influence at all, is to DMCA the poster (ie, accuse them of violating your copyright, whether real or imagined). That gets a video yanked faster than you can say, "cheese," and the poster has to prove their innocence in order to get the video back up. If you're a government with something like PRISM running, you probably wouldn't even need to do that.

That's a great point about the Youtube videos.. a lot of videos are taken down because they use others content. This is something you see all through society as well. The people in power use the legal system to manipulate us. For example, how do you tell people that some well known scientist is a disinfo agent when they can use the law to prevent you from making such accusations without irrefutable proof. And they control all the proof and they control the school system so people have no scientific knowledge to make those determinations themselves.



As for my point - there are 3 basic points...

1. There is a hidden history of the world and the group that has this knowledge isn't confined to one country - it's international and comprised of the elites of society.

2. There are super technologies that these elites possess that they keep from us, like the secret history, that were developed around WWII but also go back throughout that hidden history. Some of these technologies were partially lost and rediscovered.

3. It is unknown what the real agenda of these people is... are they people who do evil things at times because they feel it is necessary for the benefit of humanity.. OR are they evil people who just want control?There seems to be a lot evidence that these people are evil. There could be more than one group though.

The world is not like the Assassin's Creed games you know...

If you knew the evidence I have seen you would understand why I am so certain that this is real. The info is all out there.. but people have been conditioned to not take this stuff seriously.

What you have to realize is that these people control all the info we receive... so if the majority believes something you can guarantee that is exactly what they want us to believe.




Truth is far stranger than fiction...

http://jezebel.com/5952939/turns-out-ba ... n-of-youth


Rather than admit our public theories about gravity are wrong we invent a material to account for our lack of understanding..

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 124344.htm

12. Your "theory" either requires and/or has substanial participation by some sort of multi-generational group and/or non-human (Wizards/Melonheads/Vampires/Travelers*/Nordics/Neanderthals/Valyarians/Daemons/etc.).

- And none of the members of these groups managed to have a car crash/heart attack/accidental death in the last hundred years near a hospital? Maybe they should be giving healthy eating presentations. No one ever leaves the "evil group" to run off with the significant other? No one ever notices but people making YouTube videos?

* No relation to the RPG of a related name

The mafia is a great example of a multi-generational group that is part of a conspiracy. Irrefutable. So I don't see what is strange about this concept. We also have royal families all through history that are tied to secret societies.

Why does that make the theory wrong?

Last edited by CAL_1138 on 17 Jun 2013, 10:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Hmmmm, yes, I should have specified "Your "theory" either requires and/or has substanial participation by some sort of secret multi-generational human and/or non-human group(Wizards/Melonheads/Vampires/Travelers*/Nordics/Neanderthals/Valyarians/Daemons/etc.)."

The mafia is not a secret organization in the sense that the existance of the individuals and the group is secret. Even in Italy, where families are linked over generations, the individuals involved are generally known to the community, even if the roles of individual members are not known to the general public.

How do you know if something is not known? How can you prove that no crime families have stayed in secret? How can one be expected to prove that a crime family has stayed secret?

That's not an accurate statement. Firstly, anyone with a modicum of scientific background can pick through the majority of bunk out there; for example, I'm a biologist but can tell that the stuff you've listed wrt. Wells and Hudrogen amount either to bunk or to a paradigm shift, and he hasn't provided evidence for the latter; nor has anyone replicated his results. The scientific community may come around slowly, but it WILL come around in the face of replicable, statistically valid evidence.
Scientists accept hypotheses based on whether or not they make sense in the context of what is currently known, not based on whether or not some high priest of science told them to believe something. If a hypothesis is rejected because it doesn't make sense in the context of what is known, it is the responsibility of the person making the claim to provide the evidence that changes what is known. Ie, it is the responsibility of the claimant to provide extraordinary evidence. That's just common sense for anyone, not just scientists; we won't shift our world-view that things close to Earth fall to earth when dropped, for example, unless we see some interesting evidence to the contrary.

As for smearing the scientists themselves without any evidence, that happens all the time whenever someone presents data that conflicts with some political group's world view. The presence or absence of a smear does not reflect on the accuracy of the data presented by the scientist in question.


Of course some proportion of history is hidden; a lot of people over the years, in every human organization that has ever existed, have gone to great lengths to destroy various inconvenient bits of truth. However, the mere fact of hidden history points more to human fallibility and vice than it does to some super-human, international cabal. The world has far, far more Lady MacBeths than Infallible overlords.


Evidence? I'm sure that the military has all kinds of toys that I know about, but I'm also sure that very little, if any, of it represents any major paradigm shift in the knowledge base of humanity. The US spends more on its military than the next ten countries combined, and we still can't stop green-on-blue attacks in Afghanistan. We're being beaten by savages with weapons that were primitive decades ago, just like the last half-dozen countries who tried to go in there.


Maybe it's unknown because it's all in the collective imaginations of a whole bunch of people writing illuminati fan-fiction.

Someone has... just like people have replicated cold fusion. But that isn't enough it seems. Though it is possible many people are working on this in secret which would give it the appearance that people aren't taking it seriously when they really are.



But why do people need this? Why did the wright brothers need to prove to people that flight was possible before people so many people tried to replicate what they did? EVERYONE should have been pursuing it long before. There is no excuse for that failure. It was pure indefensible ignorance.



How do you think the military keeps people from discovering dangerous secret technologies if they do exist? How do government officials prevent kids from learning how to make high powered explosives with chemistry equipment from high schools?

Why is the richest country on Earth one of the worst at teaching it's kids math and science.



I agree in part.. but I don't think it is the person;'s responsibility to provide extra info beyond what they used.. Einstein knew that gravity effected light.. but it wasn't accepted until it was proven with experiment.

Just as it shouldn't have been necessary for the Wright brothers to prove that flight was possible for people to take it seriously. Had people taken it seriously sooner it would have been solved long ago. There is no excuse or rationalization to remove that failure on the part of humanity. It was a massive error and massive stupidity.

Just as I think in my case it is a massive error and massive stupidity for people to ignore what is going on in society right now... there is only one defense though... and that is the fact that the people in power have prevented people from looking int these matters because they control people through various methods.



Actually it does point to some kind of cabal though.. because much of this information is known but it isn't taken seriously. That isn't an accident. We have been conditioned to be hyper skeptical and treat things that sound outlandish as fantasy.



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How do you know this? Have you watched this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1NbBxDGSkI

The Wright brothers wern't the only one working at it, there were others at the time. The technology had only recently become available, and the first few flyers barely worked at all. Working reliable gas powered motors, the manual controls, pretty much all of that was new technology that people were still trying to get to work on a regular basis.

It was'nt stupidity, it was that it had'nt been succesful yet. It took years of careful exploration of the sound barrier before the X-1 made it's controlled flight, just like it took years of work to get Sputnik I up in orbit.

If it wasn't stupidity then why did so many more people start developing aircraft after the Wright brothers as opposed to before?

And not having the engines or the control mechanisms isn't an excuse either.. because the same logic applies.

This just shows that it isn't the responsibility of the people who see the future to completely explain it to humanity... the skeptics neeed to take responsibility too...

Ummm...Langley was working on them for years beforehand, and he was'nt the only one. Perhaps in your "research", you missed out on the history of flight. Since flight runs on the known laws of gravity, I can understand why you may have missed that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_aviation

Quite interesting stories, I forgot most of them over the years.

You are jumping to conclusions about my comments.. I didn't say no one was working on flight before the Wright brothers.. my point was that it was nowhere near the amount as after the Wright brothers...

It also took years for the Wright brothers to be taken seriously because they weren't considered scientist of their era.. just lowly mechanical engineers.

The same elitism you demonstrate in your post was responsible for the way they were treated then as well.

CAL, someone comes up to you and says "I have a machine that will make me very rich. If you drop everything and help me on it for the rest of your life, I'll let you share in the profits".

Before you agree to do it, you ask a simple question. "Does it work?"

Are you more likely to agree to his proposal if he says "yes" or "erm... maybe, I haven't tried it yet".