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01 Oct 2013, 7:42 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:

Here is a vagino-centric statement on men vs. women shopping.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24vgDovxJyo[/youtube]

Since she doesn't have a cock, you can't accuse her of sexism.

1) Using a comedy routine as a proof of your point is a little silly... Is Jeff Dunham admissable evidence?
2) Incorrect... You can be sexist towards your own gender...

Kind of like I am doing in this conversation... I am male... and I am condemning the actions and words of the idiocracy that perpetuates the war on women and american rape culture. I am sexist against the misogynists and the average male... I admit that whole heartedly...

One example... the stubenville rape case... A girl was passed out drunk... the boys TOOK HER FROM THE PARTY (KIDNAPPING) Photographed her, raped her and then returned her to the party... When it became common knowledge... the parents of the boys and other children HARASSED HER for their actions... the media stated that it was a shame what this case was doing to their future careers... Not one member of the mass media made one comment condemning the actions of these MALE children...

To state that there is no gender biase towards men in this country is to be walking around with your eyes closed.

And the problem is... those that don't believe it are like religious zealots in that no amount of proof can convince them otherwise...

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01 Oct 2013, 9:05 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

Dox47 wrote:

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Okay, I'll bite. What's hypocritical about it?

Condemning harassment of people for having "too much sex" or being "too easy" while simultaneously harassing people about not having "enough" sex or not "getting any". If you see one as horrible awful "slut shaming" deserving of calling out and the other as a perfectly legitimate way to attack people you don't like, then I don't know what word other than hypocrisy to apply. It's especially galling when it's so often the go to insult when feminists argue with men, when they're arguing that sex isn't a prize to be won and such, and then taunting people they think aren't getting any sex. You have to condemn both or neither, otherwise you just open yourself up to the double standard charge.

Where did I mention anyone's sex life?

I dug back a little. Dox47 didn't accuse you of specifically mentioning anything about anyone's sex life. He was talking about a tendency among many feminists.

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Ever noticed how many feminists like to go on about slut shaming, but when men say things they don't like, their go to insult is to suggest that the man in question isn't getting any?

Women don't find misogyny attractive in the same way men don't find misandry attractive. It's hardly a shaming tactic meant to control, as slut-shaming is.

But feel free to believe it is if you wish.

Both are shaming tactics. The one directed at women may be more intended to control than the one directed at men. Still, it is all about "Nyah, nyah, nyah!"

It was said specifically in response to my original post. The clear assumption was that I am one of those feminists he spoke of. This means he equates being single with not getting laid... a fallacy all on it's own.

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01 Oct 2013, 9:07 pm

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Since she doesn't have a cock, you can't accuse her of sexism.

What an absurd assertion. Being female does not automatically exclude you from being misogynistic.

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01 Oct 2013, 9:26 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

ArrantPariah wrote:

Since she doesn't have a cock, you can't accuse her of sexism.

What an absurd assertion. Being female does not automatically exclude you from being misogynistic.

Name one female misogynist.

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01 Oct 2013, 9:59 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

It had actually been rolling around in my head a while, as I'd seen it happen over an over when some guy would be arguing with feminists, and invariably you'd start seeing the "that's why you're still single" or "you're just bitter because you're not getting laid" line of insults come out, and it had stuck me that this was fairly hypocritical when coming from a demographic that highlights "slut shaming" as something to be condemned. It's okay to taunt someone who's perceived to not be getting sex, but it's a HUGE DEAL to taunt someone for having "too much" sex. Your post just happened to remind me of that line of thought.

Don't think for a minute that I'm dismissing slut shaming or approve of it, I just think that if you're going to take that stand, you need to be consistent.

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01 Oct 2013, 10:38 pm

Dox47 wrote:

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

Okay, I'll bite. What's hypocritical about it?

good post.

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01 Oct 2013, 11:35 pm

Dox47 wrote:

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In other words, I'm right. You were accusing me of being hypocritical, and singlehood is no different in your mind than 'not getting any'.

I still stand by everything I said. No, it's not right to shame someone for either too much or too little sex, but anyone that holds such bitterness towards the sex they wish to be romantic with or bed is going to be less likely to get it. Male or female.

Hate is not attractive. There's no two ways around that one.

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01 Oct 2013, 11:37 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

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Since she doesn't have a cock, you can't accuse her of sexism.

What an absurd assertion. Being female does not automatically exclude you from being misogynistic.

Name one female misogynist.

Pick one, dear. Popular culture and history are littered with them. If you can't be bothered to look past their genitalia to hear exactly what they're saying, that's on you.

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02 Oct 2013, 1:01 am

ArrantPariah wrote:

Name one female misogynist.

misogyny: hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women.

Please note that there is no mention of the gender doing the hating, mistrusting or disliking. But since you asked... Go check out the blog of Claire Khaw... that is a female misogynist.

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02 Oct 2013, 1:46 am

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

That's a bit of a red herring, your objection to slut shaming rests upon the idea of using it to oppress and control people, but you didn't hesitate to single shame someone who said something you didn't like, and for no obviously productive purpose beyond taking a dig at someone. Do you even know that SG is single? (I don't get out much forum wise, I don't know if he's talked about it elsewhere)

I also don't see a lot of difference between "you're alone" and "you're not getting any", as both suggest that the root of the other person's opinion is not genuine, that it's due to some perceived bitterness/anger at being single or not getting laid, quite similar in tone and intent.

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02 Oct 2013, 2:00 am

Dox47 wrote:

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

My statement was based not just on his post here, but on others I've seen in the L&D section. I didn't assume bitterness and hatred, I know it's there.

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02 Oct 2013, 2:08 am

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

My statement was based not just on his post here, but on others I've seen in the L&D section. I didn't assume bitterness and hatred, I know it's there.

Yet still, you respond with a taunt at his singlehood. How is that any different than taunting someone about promiscuity?

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02 Oct 2013, 6:34 am

Feralucce wrote:

Go check out the blog of Claire Khaw... that is a female misogynist.

I found her FaceBook site: https://www.facebook.com/clairekhawantissm

She seems to be something of an internet satirist. I don't see why you label her a female M-word.

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02 Oct 2013, 6:41 am

Oh, I found her blog.

http://thebattlefieldoflove.blogspot.co.uk/

How can you regard that as anything but satire? She is hilarious. :lmao:

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02 Oct 2013, 7:50 am

Feralucce wrote:

ArrantPariah wrote:

Here is a vagino-centric statement on men vs. women shopping.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24vgDovxJyo[/youtube]

Since she doesn't have a cock, you can't accuse her of sexism.

1) Using a comedy routine as a proof of your point is a little silly...

Hast thou never met a neurotypical woman?

Feralucce wrote:

Is Jeff Dunham admissable evidence?

Why not?

Feralucce wrote:

2) Incorrect... You can be sexist towards your own gender...

Kind of like I am doing in this conversation....... I am sexist against the misogynists and the average male... I admit that whole heartedly...

Well then, good for you.

Feralucce wrote:

To state that there is no gender biase towards men in this country is to be walking around with your eyes closed.

I'm sure that there are gender biases all over the place. The country that reduced gender bias the most was China during the Cultural Revolution.

Feralucce wrote:

And the problem is... those that don't believe it are like religious zealots in that no amount of proof can convince them otherwise...

Try citing some comedy routines.

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