11 Oct 2013, 4:30 am
TheBicyclingGuitarist wrote:
A big problem with the story of Noah's Ark if taken literally is that there is no evidence of the type we would expect to find if there ever had been a global flood, but there are multiple lines of evidence of the type we would expect to find if such a flood did NOT occur.
So once again, a literal reading of the Book of Genesis is falsified by the evidence of the physical world. Maybe it did happen and God somehow hid all the signs and planted false evidence to make it look like it did not happen, but then that would make the God of the Bible out to be a trickster or prankster.
So this whole question is bogus because apparently Noah's flood did NOT ever happen (at least not the way most Christians read it).
What is most likely is that this story was adapted from other flood stories of that area from earlier cultures, and the Hebrews took the story and put Hebrew names and characters into it and made it represent THEIR God. It is also likely that this story may be based on a local flood that to the people of that time and place DID cover the whole world so far as they knew or at least THEIR whole world. IF the Bible is true, then perhaps this story is supposed to teach us something spiritual about our relationship to God or His plans for us, His mercy etc. But like I say, there is NO scientific evidence that supports a literal interpretation of the Flood story and there IS scientific evidence that a global flood did NOT happen. So what gives?
So once again, a literal reading of the Book of Genesis is falsified by the evidence of the physical world. Maybe it did happen and God somehow hid all the signs and planted false evidence to make it look like it did not happen, but then that would make the God of the Bible out to be a trickster or prankster.
So this whole question is bogus because apparently Noah's flood did NOT ever happen (at least not the way most Christians read it).
What is most likely is that this story was adapted from other flood stories of that area from earlier cultures, and the Hebrews took the story and put Hebrew names and characters into it and made it represent THEIR God. It is also likely that this story may be based on a local flood that to the people of that time and place DID cover the whole world so far as they knew or at least THEIR whole world. IF the Bible is true, then perhaps this story is supposed to teach us something spiritual about our relationship to God or His plans for us, His mercy etc. But like I say, there is NO scientific evidence that supports a literal interpretation of the Flood story and there IS scientific evidence that a global flood did NOT happen. So what gives?
I knew you'd post here.
11 Oct 2013, 12:00 pm
MCalavera wrote:
TheBicyclingGuitarist wrote:
A big problem with the story of Noah's Ark if taken literally is that there is no evidence of the type we would expect to find if there ever had been a global flood, but there are multiple lines of evidence of the type we would expect to find if such a flood did NOT occur.
So once again, a literal reading of the Book of Genesis is falsified by the evidence of the physical world. Maybe it did happen and God somehow hid all the signs and planted false evidence to make it look like it did not happen, but then that would make the God of the Bible out to be a trickster or prankster.
So this whole question is bogus because apparently Noah's flood did NOT ever happen (at least not the way most Christians read it).
What is most likely is that this story was adapted from other flood stories of that area from earlier cultures, and the Hebrews took the story and put Hebrew names and characters into it and made it represent THEIR God. It is also likely that this story may be based on a local flood that to the people of that time and place DID cover the whole world so far as they knew or at least THEIR whole world. IF the Bible is true, then perhaps this story is supposed to teach us something spiritual about our relationship to God or His plans for us, His mercy etc. But like I say, there is NO scientific evidence that supports a literal interpretation of the Flood story and there IS scientific evidence that a global flood did NOT happen. So what gives?
So once again, a literal reading of the Book of Genesis is falsified by the evidence of the physical world. Maybe it did happen and God somehow hid all the signs and planted false evidence to make it look like it did not happen, but then that would make the God of the Bible out to be a trickster or prankster.
So this whole question is bogus because apparently Noah's flood did NOT ever happen (at least not the way most Christians read it).
What is most likely is that this story was adapted from other flood stories of that area from earlier cultures, and the Hebrews took the story and put Hebrew names and characters into it and made it represent THEIR God. It is also likely that this story may be based on a local flood that to the people of that time and place DID cover the whole world so far as they knew or at least THEIR whole world. IF the Bible is true, then perhaps this story is supposed to teach us something spiritual about our relationship to God or His plans for us, His mercy etc. But like I say, there is NO scientific evidence that supports a literal interpretation of the Flood story and there IS scientific evidence that a global flood did NOT happen. So what gives?
I knew you'd post here.
I stand up for truth. And those who THINK that there is any scientific evidence for a global flood are very badly misinformed about this subject. People can believe whatever they want, but the facts are as I stated them. There has been a web site around for some time called "Talk Origins" that has information about the misunderstandings many people have, including the sources of where those misunderstandings come from and links to the actual evidence and scientific papers debunking them.
Some parts of the talk origins web site haven't been updated for some time, but it doesn't really need to be updated because the arguments of the young earth creationists were thoroughly debunked years ago and the YECs haven't come up with any new evidence or arguments. The YECs just keep spreading the same old lies, thoroughly debunked, but they keep spreading those lies anyway because if they told people the truth about what evidence actually exists then it would be much more difficult for anyone to believe their interpretation.
Here's a page about Flood Geology
11 Oct 2013, 1:16 pm
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