Should prisons be coed?

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09 Dec 2013, 11:18 am

Though coed prisons are an unworkable and idiotic idea in the main there are exceptions you could make for special needs. Certain individual offenders NEED to be paired with other individual offenders for us to take revenge...I mean....I mean...for us to, um...properly attend to both prison clients- and to thier proper correctional, and theraputic needs, to aid in their moral reform. Know what I mean? And often these pairs of offenders happened to be of the opposite gender.

For example a pair who should actually be forced to MARRY each other, and forced to live in wedded dometic bliss inside of maximum security would be: Dr.Martin MacNeill, and Jodi Areas. They should be forced to be married and lived together in the same nuptial cell.

Others come to mind who should paired into penitentiary households like: the Menendez Brothers- they should be forced to live with either the Ramseys, or with Kacey Anthony. Indeed whichever they get paired with should be forced to adopt the Menendez Brothers as their own sons! And like that.

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09 Dec 2013, 11:40 am

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Women have a right to die protecting the country they love, same as you me and everyone else.

I'll agree with you there, and with the goal of 50% of combat personnel being female.

But, the prison population should also be 50% female, and prisons should be fully integrated. To suggest otherwise is sexist.

If you want the prison population to be 50% female you'll need to start locking up innocent females or release guilty males to even it all out, since there are more male criminals.

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09 Dec 2013, 1:09 pm

It may not be safe for the men to have the women there.My bio mom worked men's max units.She said she wouldn't work at the women's unit because the inmates were in her words,"crazy as hell and dangerous."If you had a Eileen Wuornos type woman in with rapists,she would be like a kid in a candy store.

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09 Dec 2013, 2:52 pm

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Most women in the prisons aren't like her. Depends on where you are. If Wuornos were in a man's prison, it would be worse for her than the men because they would all be trying to get revenge.

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09 Dec 2013, 4:08 pm

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Most women in the prisons aren't like her. Depends on where you are. If Wuornos were in a man's prison, it would be worse for her than the men because they would all be trying to get revenge.

I sorta agree, but it would not be revenge...men are just animals in prison . Wuornos was raped all her life, and got a few attacks on helpless men only.

In a mans prison she would be brutally raped with every other woman in real life.

It would be CRUEL and UNUSUAL punishment making broken women more broken. Women and children were often locked up with men in the middle-ages, and would be raped by the morning.. Obviously, locking rapists and women together is....insane.

This whole thread is ridiculous... I wish others realized the original poster is having a lark at them, mostly likely snickering at the mischief he's caused.

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09 Dec 2013, 4:10 pm

Martha Stewart might be even more dangerous,even hardened gang bangers would be intimidated by her.

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09 Dec 2013, 4:50 pm

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

Misslizard wrote:

Most women in the prisons aren't like her. Depends on where you are. If Wuornos were in a man's prison, it would be worse for her than the men because they would all be trying to get revenge.

Actually I feel terrible for Wuornos. I know she is a murderer but if you read her bio, Jesus. She had a terrible life. She only added to it by making rotten choices though.

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09 Dec 2013, 5:29 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

Misslizard wrote:

Most women in the prisons aren't like her. Depends on where you are. If Wuornos were in a man's prison, it would be worse for her than the men because they would all be trying to get revenge.

Actually I feel terrible for Wuornos. I know she is a murderer but if you read her bio, Jesus. She had a terrible life. She only added to it by making rotten choices though.

She is someone who got the wrong end of the stick and beat somebody to death with it. I don't feel sorry for her, but condemning her isn't right either.

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09 Dec 2013, 5:58 pm

Incarceration in general is a failed concept and further, its application to non-violent offenders of victimless crimes is a crime against humanity. I like Panda's idea of coed prisons since because of how ridiculous it is to everybody but if you can understand why it would be a bad idea to put women in the same prisons as men then how can you support sending anyone to them? As civilized people we recognize rape as a tool of war and a crime against humanity, how can we in good faith condemn this when we ourselves are guilty for torturous prisons that lock away more people than any other country on Earth? Incarceration doesn't rehabilitate anyone, it doesn't deter crime, it doesn't even make you safer. It actually creates more criminals, it destroys not only the people imprisoned but the families and communities that they were stolen from. Not only that but we're flat broke and can't afford it.

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09 Dec 2013, 6:01 pm

AutisticMillionaire wrote:

I wish others realized the original poster is having a lark at them, mostly likely snickering at the mischief he's caused.

I am, all the same, enjoying the ensuing debate. :nerdy:

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09 Dec 2013, 6:07 pm

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

Misslizard wrote:

Most women in the prisons aren't like her. Depends on where you are. If Wuornos were in a man's prison, it would be worse for her than the men because they would all be trying to get revenge.

Actually I feel terrible for Wuornos. I know she is a murderer but if you read her bio, Jesus. She had a terrible life. She only added to it by making rotten choices though.

She is someone who got the wrong end of the stick and beat somebody to death with it. I don't feel sorry for her, but condemning her isn't right either.

Other people have had as bad a life and did not do what she did.Of course women and men should not be in prison together.Women who are incarcerated have a tough enough time with male guards harassing them.

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09 Dec 2013, 6:11 pm

Well, it looks as if we have had some coed prisons

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/06/01/us/wo ... rison.html

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''an inmate's an inmate's an inmate, no matter whether they're male or female"

Isn't that Feminism's goal?

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09 Dec 2013, 6:19 pm

Juvenile hall was coed when I was in there.The staff was more likely to try something unsavory than the juvenile inmates.

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09 Dec 2013, 6:21 pm

http://articles.philly.com/1986-12-03/n ... on-inmates

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Once upon a time, at a women's prison in Pennsylvania, the state Corrections Department, more out of desperation than innovation, cleared off a patch of land and built a 120-bed dormitory for male prisoners.

It was the state's first truly coed prison - a temporary arrangement that stemmed from overcrowding in the men's prisons - and when it opened last year, inmates and officials agree, there were some immediate benefits: Foul language decreased, behavior improved and inmates, it seemed, began taking more pride in their appearance.

"Oh yeah," Ella Smith said of her fellow inmates at the State Correctional Institution at Muncy, near Williamsport, "they all began to primp up and put on a little bit of Maybelline and borrow clothes to look nice."

It wasn't until months later - about nine - that a problem became apparent to prison officials. Despite a fence between the men's and women's living quarters, round-the-clock supervision and strict warnings that any contact beyond hand-holding was prohibited, inmates were getting pregnant.

I suppose that the babies could be eaten.

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09 Dec 2013, 6:21 pm

Misslizard wrote:

appletheclown wrote:

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

AutisticMillionaire wrote:

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

Misslizard wrote:

Most women in the prisons aren't like her. Depends on where you are. If Wuornos were in a man's prison, it would be worse for her than the men because they would all be trying to get revenge.

Actually I feel terrible for Wuornos. I know she is a murderer but if you read her bio, Jesus. She had a terrible life. She only added to it by making rotten choices though.

She is someone who got the wrong end of the stick and beat somebody to death with it. I don't feel sorry for her, but condemning her isn't right either.

Yes, I know, she made wrong choices and that only made it that much worse. Lesson to be learned here.

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09 Dec 2013, 11:28 pm

Mrs. Wuornos was on death row, and I think that those inmates are segregated from the rest. It's not as if there would be any point in rehabilitating them.

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