Heisenberg Uncertainty Principal does not show indeterminism

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04 Feb 2014, 9:23 pm

GGPViper wrote:
1. The Uncertainty Principle is an observed characteristic of physical prediction. It is (by definition) epistemological in character. A related ontological subject is the Observer Effect.


Ok.

It is "observed" with light, and, the act of observing introduces the uncertainty because the light hits the particle.


GGPViper wrote:
2. Quantum Indeterminacy is an observed characteristic of physical prediction. Whether it is physical reality or not is discussed here: Comparions of Interpretations


These are interpretations of a related topic of the "wave function collapse", not technically the Uncertainty Principal.

Since, the physicist in the original video stated that the Uncertainty Principal proves free will then I did not intend to discuss the so called "wave function collapse".

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3. Free Will is a unobserved claim about physical reality postulating the existence of effects ("will") with no causes ("free"). If part of physical reality, Free Will would violate the First Law of Thermodynamics. If not part of physical reality, then Free Will has as much place in science as my imaginary imaginary friend back in Kindergarden (I didn't have one, but I just imagined that I did, hence the double adjective).


I will have to take time to review this regard the laws of thermodynamics related to 'free will'. Thanks.

GGPViper wrote:
4. Free Willy is a 1993 movie.


I found this rambling philosopher smoking something who says determinism trumps 'free willy' :D ...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azTpYALNOrA&feature=player_detailpage#t=225[/youtube]