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I'm not really sure what men can do. Laws are equal.

Women are more likely to be the victims of crime by men, than the other way round. But men are also victims of crimes by women.

There are laws that punish abusive people.

It has always been possible for women to rape men. Tie 'em up and jump on 'em. All you women need is a gun,
a bed, a club, and a rope. Raping men with objects or toys is even simpler than that. There. Now everyone knows your wrong.
Don't tell us that crap.

When people become utterly obsessed with finding themselves pitied by society, we get what we have today.
Whining people who want their voice heard over the other, never tolerating anything except out of fear
of those who are annoyed by them. Why whine piss and moan if you don't care what other people go through.

I think it generally does. Obviously some people probably want it eliminated altogether, but I think most are more focused on the "unexplained" difference (that is, the difference not explained by different work patterns or career choices or...), which is about 40% of the difference.

The most ludicris thing about this is only women can be raped and only men can rape.
Women have raped women!
Women have raped men!
Men have raped men!
Men have raped women!
I could go on, but it doesn't matter.
No matter how low or high any of those kinds of rape are or are not, it matters not.
The amount of women raping men, is still as bad as the number of men on women rapes.
There is a significant difference, and the rape of a woman should be solved first.
This never means any rape of a man or a female rapist should ever go un noticed or reported and put through court.

Then you dont stand for equality, your basicly saying if and when a man is raped deny it even though there have been cases where men have been raped by women at gun point etc and when that happens simply ignore it? And when a male is a victim of domestic violence simply look the other way and pretend it never happens? Heres some articles on women raping men cases: http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/ ... g-his-home

http://www.chinasmack.com/2013/pictures ... treet.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/0 ... 24204.html

I suppose look the other way and still deny it happens right?

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i think the cartoon Miss Lizard posted sums it up more eloquently than i could in words.

The Cartoon is a joke about men who are charged as rapist and not about men who are raped, you seem to be avoiding the issue here! And deny the fact there are men who do get raped by women although its not as common I listed 3 examples on one simple post! The second link shows physical evidence of a woman taking advantage of a man sexually without his consent! That is rape!

You are a shame to any woman who has ever saved a man's life, or fought for the honor of her man.

No kidding hes avoiding the fact I provided evidence of men being raped by women and that there are women who do rape men, it is reality and he thinks that only men rape women and men!

Except for the part where that is not at all what's going on in this thread.

There's a huge difference between "here's some s**t women have to deal with, what should we do about it" and "look how easy you men have it." One of those is helpful, the other is a giant middle finger to those who don't fit your ideas regarding who can and can't be screwed by our messed up system of gender roles.

You chose the second way of expressing your views, did you think no one would react poorly?

No kidding, and hes stating that women arent capable of raping men but yet I provided examples so hes avoiding it all together and going around the argument!

Yeah, we get it, you provided examples. But you also tiptoed around the fact that the vast majority of men who are victims of rape are assaulted by other men.

I did not deny that men rape other men but I did state that women are capable and have raped men!

I don't think anyone here is denying that men are more likely to commit sex crimes.  I think the question here is "exactly how much more likely?"

A list of 19 studies on sexual assault.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2013/09/04/the-startling-facts-on-female-sexual-aggression/

Some relevant quotes.

"14% of men (and 29% of women) reported they had been forced to have intercourse against their will"

"43% [of women] secured sexual acts by verbal coercion; 36.5% by getting a man intoxicated; threat of force – 27.8%, use of force – 20%;  By threatening a man with a weapon – 8.9%"

"43% of college women admitted to using verbal or physical pressure to obtain sex"

"28.5% of women reported the use of verbal coercion, 14.7% had coerced a man into sexual activity by getting him intoxicated and 7.1% had threatened or used physical force."

"10% of surveyed male college students reported experiencing a completed sexual assault perpetrated by a female intimate partner"

"Lifetime prevalence of 24% for women having made a man engage in sexual activity against his will"

"18% of women in a college sample reported engaging in sexually coercive behaviors, ranging from verbal threats and pressure to use of physically aggressive tactics."

It goes on like this.  And while male offenders outnumber female offenders significantly, and no one is arguing otherwise, the number of female offenders and male victims is much higher than most people seem to suspect.

And male victims, especially victims of female offenders, are (when the subject comes up at all) told they don't exist, told they are lying and blamed for the incident even more often than female victims.

So can you maybe see why a guy would get pissed off and defensive when someone says



Which is a perfect example of what I was talking about earlier; why are some people incapable of talking about the injustices suffered by one group without minimizing those suffered by another group?

and ignoring any quantitive context in the process.

The fact is that men are far far more likely to be rapists means that male on female rape must be given precedence. Men don't have to avoid going out on their own or avoiding poorly lit streets for fear of being raped by women hiding in bushes. This is still a reality for women.

Women are also far more likely to be victims of domestic rape (in the context of a heterosexual relationship).

I am not condoning or downplaying any form of rape, i am saying you are creating a boogeyman. Female rapists arent a fear for men in the way that male rapists are of women if you are being completely honest.