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khaoz
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14 Mar 2014, 7:33 pm

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Question 1:How could a woman 'sexually assault' a man?

Question 2: how could she do it in a way that would be as traumatic to the man as rape would be to a woman?

You gotta help us to imagine this.


Years ago I saw a case dramatized on TV about a gang of girls gang raping a guy in retaliation for him raping one of them.

It happens.


Yeah but the girls in that show were idiots. They were all bunch of jerry springer show types. And the guy'victim' didnt seem to mind it that much. It was not an effective way of inflicting 'revenge' on him. Bizarre stuff happens. Its still bizarre.


There was a movie I think, around 30 years ago, I believe it was called "3 in an Attic", if I remember correctly, about two females who get retribution on a cheating mutual BF by locking him in an attack turns with him until he "learned his lesson."



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14 Mar 2014, 8:12 pm

sly279 wrote:
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The guy could get back at her by cheating on her, and doing another woman ( a hooker if need be). So he gets his needs met, AND inflicts emotional pain/payback on her in one act. But a woman cant un-rape herself. So the balance sheet doesnt quite balance.

So they are not equivalent.

If there is a male 'equivalent' of being raped it would be-.being raped- anally- by other men. Or that seems to be the unspoken consensus among most people.
Or just being sexually assaulted by a woman...


I think if the woman is an attacker, then the best equivalent would be if she had anally violated him with a broomstick or broken bottle, or some other God awful object. There would be no misunderstanding that this is a violent crime against the opposite gender meant to humiliate and demean.



wait so the only way a man can be raped is anally ? that's dumb so if a woman drugs, ties up, beats a man then climbs on him, thats not rape? If anyone woman has sex with me when I don't want it, its rape plain and simple.


Unless a man believes such a sexual assault hurts his relationship with another person, having a female attacker on top vaginally isn't going to have the same trauma as an anal assault would, both physically and psychologically. In fact, I suspect many men would see the woman on top attack as sort of fun - even if it's meant to be or not. Plus, I have never heard of a woman "raping a man" vaginally, but anyone, regardless of gender, doing such a crime to a man with dangerous objects has happened, and is devastating.


you don't hear about it cause people like you would say its not rape and laugh at them, so why would they come forward. also it happens a bit in work place, the boss threatens the guy if he doesn't have sex. wither you are a man or woman if its unwilling its rape. IF a strange woman Claimed on me and tried to have sex with me I'd be horrified. none of it would be fun. so should a woman only count as being raped if she feels it hurts her relationship? so a single woman is ok to rape?

you have very horrible ideals. unwilling sex is rape. no is no.


What the f*ck?!?!
Who says I'd ever laugh at a rape survivor, male or female? I think you seriously misunderstood what I wrote.


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14 Mar 2014, 9:35 pm

Kraichgauer would never mock a rape victim,he's a very sympathetic person.
A depressing bit of news from my area.Just goes to show rape is just not a female problem.
http://www.ozarksfirst.com/story/d/stor ... q9GvdzK1dQ


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14 Mar 2014, 9:53 pm

Misslizard wrote:
Kraichgauer would never mock a rape victim,he's a very sympathetic person.
A depressing bit of news from my area.Just goes to show rape is just not a female problem.
http://www.ozarksfirst.com/story/d/stor ... q9GvdzK1dQ


This is becoming an increasingly brutal world.



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14 Mar 2014, 11:25 pm

Misslizard wrote:
Kraichgauer would never mock a rape victim,he's a very sympathetic person.
A depressing bit of news from my area.Just goes to show rape is just not a female problem.
http://www.ozarksfirst.com/story/d/stor ... q9GvdzK1dQ


Thank you for the vote of confidence, Misslizard.
As for that Hamilton guy - that sort of news story is far too common. Across the state line in Idaho not many years back, a psychopathic pedophile had murdered a whole family in order to kidnap the two children - one boy, and one girl. He ended up killing the boy after molesting him, but kept the girl alive. She was thankfully rescued by the police, and the man is, I believe, doing a life sentence after pleading guilty in order to escape the death penalty.


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15 Mar 2014, 3:07 am

Withholding sex can be used as a weapon. I don't think it's comparable to rape but it can be used as a power play in some cases.

There's an ongoing struggle between men and women. Let's just be civil and forget the fighting. Both sides deserve some blame.



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17 Mar 2014, 9:19 am

naturalplastic wrote:
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naturalplastic wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Question 1:How could a woman 'sexually assault' a man?

Question 2: how could she do it in a way that would be as traumatic to the man as rape would be to a woman?

You gotta help us to imagine this.


Years ago I saw a case dramatized on TV about a gang of girls gang raping a guy in retaliation for him raping one of them.

It happens.


Yeah but the girls in that show were idiots. They were all bunch of jerry springer show types. And the guy'victim' didnt seem to mind it that much. It was not an effective way of inflicting 'revenge' on him. Bizarre stuff happens. Its still bizarre.


And this attitude is why you will rarely see a man come forward.


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17 Mar 2014, 10:09 am

When one person sexually assaults another person, that's a criminal offence, and it is a matter for the police.

When one spouse withholds intercourse from the other spouse on a persistent and ongoing basis, that is no offence at all--it is, however, grounds for divorce on the grounds of refusal of consortium.

The two are not comparable, because their consequences are entirely different. A person who is raped can never be un-raped. A person who has been denied sex can go and find sex elsewhere.


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17 Mar 2014, 10:50 am

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When one person sexually assaults another person, that's a criminal offence, and it is a matter for the police.

When one spouse withholds intercourse from the other spouse on a persistent and ongoing basis, that is no offence at all--it is, however, grounds for divorce on the grounds of refusal of consortium.

The two are not comparable, because their consequences are entirely different. A person who is raped can never be un-raped. A person who has been denied sex can go and find sex elsewhere.


Amen!


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