conservative lifestyle=less problem

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What do conservatives conserve anyway?Water?Natural Resorces?Shouldn't they be called Consumers?
I don't think my wealthy conservative relatives care much for "society,"unless you make a good six figure income,own property,have the right associates,be in the country club,you are pretty much a peasant to them.

I don't keep a pistol on my person and/or in my SUV to shoot squirrels or bulls-eye targets with with. I could go paragraph by paragraph on this /\ but I just happen to be getting stuff together to go to the shooting range tomorrow so I don't have the time now.

Anyone have any idea who The Walrus is talking to??? I don't see a quote or a name so how can anyone be sure?
I do see a lot of personal attacks in there; stupid, troll, and just the tone of it is uncivil.

Hmm can't do it....if i had a partner I'd be loyal but I am not having kids so I wouldn't have any to love, id have no idea how to raise a family not that I am interested in that to begin with. And I like to have beers sometimes and smoke cannabis...So conservatives aren't allowed to have a beer? or a coffee? or take a tylenol for a headache sounds tough.

Hopefully they don't start trying to force this lifestyle on people.

proof?

FFS. It's you. He's pretty clearly talking to you. You've wound him up a wee bit by being arsey. Well done.

drinking beer is ok,alcoholism and drug addictions are not.
Having a loyal partner is good,let say you end up
with a kid,it would be good for the kid to have a good father.
someone to support you and the child.
women with good,loyal partner=happy

It's not enough just to have personal values, and then support the group which pays lip service to those values. You need to research whether positive outcomes are actually resulting from the policy. Don't just barrack for a particular political team without concern for what they are actually doing beyond the rhetoric; it's dumb.

BS! Part of the conservative lifestyle is being part of the community. For a male that means playing sports. If you can't handle the social situations or learn to navigate social hierarchies you will quickly find yourself on the outside looking in. Since we are busy disregarding statistics in favor of anecdotes I have an abbreviated story to share:
1) On the bus with my "settlers of cattan" board game a conservative woman came up to me, slapped me, and accused me of being a homosexual, among other things and proclaimed the evils of my deviant lifestyle. I literally asked her what were appropriate pastimes: "Football, baseball, basketball." Anything else: "[silence]." I then did the math and for all 8bn people to play football at least twice a week would require over half of the earth's landmass to be covered in football fields, thus some indoor hobbies are required. This wasn't enough and I couldn't escape the confines of the buss so I half-lied and said that I had a sports injury and couldn't play anymore (I have a shoulder injury from martial arts, not football): at this point I fell within the "conservative" lifestyle and so she apologized for hitting me. After she left talking to buss people I told them I had did martial arts not football and again I was deviant. I should point out, the population of the bus was on HER SIDE. HITTING A STRANGER IN THE FACE IS FINE TO CONSERVATIVES IF THE STRANGER IS EVEN SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. Why exactly is playing board games not ok??? Because conservative lifestyles don't allow for variety! To explicitly state my point so there is no misunderstanding: This woman may have been nuts: but those who shared her beliefs supported her actions and empowered her to act with impunity Both by doing nothing to stop it and actually supporting her verbally and physically I.e. Conservatives not only do not tolerate differance but empower radicals to enforce conformity. Apie-friendly hobbies fall outside their norms and so if conservatives dominated we would be subject to the same treatment as gays and blacks: assault and lynching, while the "good" conservatives have to make the moral judgement of who to support: the deviant or the well-intentioned zealot.

Fox news has been praising Putin leadership recently. Using Putin as the example of dominant conservatism there is a group that has been castrating and executing gays and posting their work online. Putin recently gave the leader of the group 250 AK-47 rifles, applauded their zeal and but politely chided them for overdoing it. No arrests have been made in the 79 and counting publicized executions. That's the logical conclusion of a "conservative society."



@Raptor
I was saying that target shooting is a perfectly fine hobby, but doesn't apply well to the living situation where I live, which is why federal solutions are problematic because they would punish you unnecessarily to restrict the harm of a small subset of the population. Other users have cited hunting with their friends as a primary social outlet.

I was not talking about addiction more responsible usage, but I am quite certain conservatives are not immune to alcoholism or drug addiction. And so far this thread seems to suggest what you describe as a conservative lifestyle isn't stictly a conservative lifestyle and that some conservatives can't or don't fit your description. Of course if I hypothetically decided to have a kid that would be important, though I am not so sure I would be entirely happy, even if I was content with the situation.

I don't know, billiscool, you seem to have a ton of problems.

no,I don't.

Well, I'm politically and socially very liberal, and I would never, ever think of cheating on my wife. On top of that, we have a child who was born a few years after we were married. Neither of us smoke or do drugs, and rarely drink to excess.
As for conservatives treating their spouses with respect - - that's hardly the case in conservative, traditional societies, where women are demanded to be submissive to often physically abusive husbands. That includes areas such as the Bible Belt, where conservative fundamentalism holds sway. It's also there that you find the highest number of unwanted pregnancies and single mothers. And need I remind you, conservatives all over the country have blamed rape victims for sexual violation, and even question if the rape is legitimate if a pregnancy is the result.
And lest you forget, that paragon of family values, Sarah Palin, has a daughter who had become pregnant out of wedlock, then later broke up with her boyfriend. And this was all after they were presented as the Charles and Dianna of the Klondike at the Republican convention.
So the notion of conservative family values is just something for conservatives to beat those they disapprove of over the head with.

From what I have personally observed of those who define themselves as conservative here in America, there are two main subgroups:
ignorant science-denying religious nut job bigots and greedy businessmen who think nothing of unfairly exploiting people and polluting the planet just to make a quick buck regardless of the consequences to present or future generations.

How is this less of a problem?

oh and there are those who also stand mainly for limited government, but again many of those do so because they are part of those other two subgroups already listed and it suits their agenda. And what about the tremendous hypocrisy of saying one is for limited government at the same time one tries to legislate people's private lives? How much more intrusive can you get?

As for your definition of a conservative lifestyle, I disagree. That is NOT what I have seen. Many conservatives are fat wife-beaters, cheaters and drunks. Also, alcohol and tobacco are both much less healthy to use than marijuana is and drunks are more likely to be aggressive and start fights than people who smoke marijuana. So again the way YOU describe "conservative lifestyle" is almost the opposite of what I have seen in my fifty+ years of observing them. And as someone else pointed out, what the conservatives SAY they stand for compared to what they actually DO is quite different. And as also pointed out the G.O.P. deceives many people into voting against their own interests and the common good.

Of course there is good and bad in every person no matter what political party they belong to. But it is my honest opinion that greed, ignorance and hypocrisy are more rampant among the G.O.P. here in America, and if you don't see that yourself it seems to me you are not looking.

btw, these are my honest observations from personal experience. I am not usually as blunt and do not mean to paint all conservatives with the same brush. Many people are conservatives because that is their local or family culture, and in the main most people are pretty decent. Right now though there are several crises in my life and I am under a lot more stress than normal so I am venting here. Two people I love most are in danger of their lives right now for separate reasons and I also could lose my housing, my income, my helpers from the regional brokerage, all my stuff, be living under a bridge and see my cats put into a shelter because I am willing to stand up for principle and do what I feel is the right thing to do regardless of personal cost to me. So don't try to tell me that people more towards the liberal side don't have good values to do what is morally right.

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Because conservatism flies in the face of their ideology, which insists that nothing's ultimately right or wrong beyond human opinion. They believe that mental and emotional acceptance dictates truth, because they want to live life 100% by their own terms. However, their ideas are defeated by pointing out that liberal and atheist views are self-defeating. If you say to an atheist, "I believe the sky is purple with neon green stars all the time, therefore its true", they'd call you a lunatic...but they have no qualms of saying their beliefs about evolution or abortion make such things true.