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27 May 2014, 4:53 pm

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I'll just leave this here.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties ... nt-you-see


These guys are morons - not for taking weapons to places, mind you - but for failing to realize that private property owners have the right to ask you to leave their property.


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27 May 2014, 5:19 pm

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Lazy cops didn't even bother to ask Rodger for a consent search.


What would they find that would of changed anything?



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27 May 2014, 9:38 pm

The darling of the far right, Joe the plumber, just today said gun rights trump the lives of kids.
I sincerely believe even the most ardent gun enthusiasts of WP wouldn't go to the extremes of that heartless cretin.


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27 May 2014, 10:02 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
The darling of the far right, Joe the plumber, just today said gun rights trump the lives of kids.
I sincerely believe even the most ardent gun enthusiasts of WP wouldn't go to the extremes of that heartless cretin.


Actually, he said that the kids' lives don't trump his constitutional rights - and fundamentally he's not wrong. The founders made a conscious choice to value the freedoms of the individual above the security of the society at large. The tradeoff to that is that sometimes bad things will happen.

Having said that, we don't need to just throw up our hands and all become nihilists either. There is definitely room for discussion on a public policy level - but trying to stop the action by banning the instrument isn't an option.


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27 May 2014, 10:13 pm

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The darling of the far right, Joe the plumber, just today said gun rights trump the lives of kids.


By "darling of the right", you mean some guy from the McCain campaign that no one has heard from or cared about since? Plus that's not actually what he said.

Partisanship kills braincells.


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27 May 2014, 10:21 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
The darling of the far right, Joe the plumber, just today said gun rights trump the lives of kids.
I sincerely believe even the most ardent gun enthusiasts of WP wouldn't go to the extremes of that heartless cretin.


Nice way to put a distasteful and undeniably partisan twist on what he actually said. :roll:

http://myfox8.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-your-dead-kids-dont-trump-my-constitutional-rights/
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?I myself have a son and daughter and the one thing I never want to go through, is what you are going through now,? Wurzelbacher writes. ?But? [a]s harsh as this sounds ? your dead kids don?t trump my constitutional rights.?


My sentiments are the same and are not subject to change.


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27 May 2014, 10:31 pm

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My sentiments are the same and are not subject to change.


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27 May 2014, 11:04 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
The darling of the far right, Joe the plumber, just today said gun rights trump the lives of kids.


By "darling of the right", you mean some guy from the McCain campaign that no one has heard from or cared about since? Plus that's not actually what he said.

Partisanship kills braincells.


Same difference.
And as he's still being reported on for the idiocies he's spewing, apparently someone's still listening to him.


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27 May 2014, 11:06 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
The darling of the far right, Joe the plumber, just today said gun rights trump the lives of kids.
I sincerely believe even the most ardent gun enthusiasts of WP wouldn't go to the extremes of that heartless cretin.


Nice way to put a distasteful and undeniably partisan twist on what he actually said. :roll:

http://myfox8.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-your-dead-kids-dont-trump-my-constitutional-rights/
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?I myself have a son and daughter and the one thing I never want to go through, is what you are going through now,? Wurzelbacher writes. ?But? [a]s harsh as this sounds ? your dead kids don?t trump my constitutional rights.?


My sentiments are the same and are not subject to change.


God forbid anything happen to his children (and yes, I sincerely mean that), but I'm willing to bet he'd change his tune if some maniac shot his kids.


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27 May 2014, 11:57 pm

Im tired of Hearing about this Elliot Roger fella hes just another monster like the virginia tech shooter the Batman theater killer and the Newtown Connecticut killer as well as the Columbine killers! Thanks to him we have another bad stereotype on our hands I have been asked if I shot up schools lately already and it hurts me and also offends me this crap is even worse than being compared to Chris Chan, and I dispise Chris Chan because he has ruined the autistic communities rep enough im sick of being compared to that loser!


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28 May 2014, 12:23 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
... apparently someone's still listening to him.


Only partisan asshats looking to score cheap political points.


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28 May 2014, 12:30 am

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God forbid anything happen to his children (and yes, I sincerely mean that), but I'm willing to bet he'd change his tune if some maniac shot his kids.


That's the epitome of an emotional argument, using fear to try and influence rather than reason; quite literally "think of the children!". Also, no: http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/29/us/connec ... k-hearings


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28 May 2014, 1:12 am

A man whose son was just shot to death is emotional? Well, I never!



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28 May 2014, 1:35 am

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A man whose son was just shot to death is emotional? Well, I never!


Kraichgauer doesn't have a son, certainly not one who's been shot recently. Maybe you should spend more time reading the posts and less time trying to be clever, the way you're doing it now isn't really working for you.


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28 May 2014, 2:04 am

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TheGoggles wrote:
A man whose son was just shot to death is emotional? Well, I never!


Kraichgauer doesn't have a son, certainly not one who's been shot recently. Maybe you should spend more time reading the posts and less time trying to be clever, the way you're doing it now isn't really working for you.


No, but I do have a daughter, and if anything would happen to her, I can't imagine being the least bit rational.


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28 May 2014, 7:19 am

Dox47 wrote:
Partisanship kills braincells.


+1


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