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04 Mar 2007, 8:48 pm

Ann Coultar lacks any sort of respect for her foes. You at least most show your equals a spot of dignity and grace, for enemies are a great gift to you. They are only people who are willing to tell you the truth.


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05 Mar 2007, 12:20 am

Ann Coulter fills me with rage.

This may be the one time when I'm thinking this is a woman who should just shut up and do what some man tells her. What I've seen of her (far too much) seems to suggest that she is morally opposed to anything else.


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05 Mar 2007, 12:57 am

I don't believe she's anyone's political mouthpiece, or that she's honestly trying to advance any political agenda. She's just trolling for attention so she can sell more books.



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05 Mar 2007, 1:01 am

she's as much of a mouthpiece to the neocons as ted haggard was a mouthpiece to mike jones.



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05 Mar 2007, 1:56 am

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How does somebody reason with a closed minded person who won't even take into consideration their point of veiw ?

It's just a form of entertainment cracking on the rabid hate filled democraps.

The goofball hollyweirdo types know they would just be trailer trash if somebody hadn't decided to market their lack of talent and the Nancy Pelosi types know they would be changing bedsheets in a Super 8 motel if some rich relative hadn't left them or their husband moeny.


Umm, don't know about all that but if you find yourself at odds with someone and they have no class, the best thing to do is have class yourself and let them diss themselves.



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05 Mar 2007, 6:21 am

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I know it's beyond you because you have been totally brainwashed. Your only argument about what Coulter says is she isn't married so her opinion is null & void. The woman isn't dead and can plainly see what is going on in society exspecially sinse she has the time to observe what is going on instead of running aorund like the average nut job soccer mom with her head cut off.

Newt in 08 8)


I trouble myself to question people, their ideas, and their motives rather than just swallowing whatever they deign to throw at me, and I'm the brainwashed one? ROFL :roll:

I strongly support the idea of committed monogamy, consider it a morally superior lifestyle, and participate in it on a daily basis. Explain to me: if she truly believes the nuclear family is a morally superior institution that needs all the people under its banner that it can get, then why isn't she participating in it herself?

That doesn't strike you as the tiniest bit odd? Why don't you try actually thinking for a change, rather than mindlessly swallowing whatever you're told?



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05 Mar 2007, 6:21 am

twosheds wrote:
I don't believe she's anyone's political mouthpiece, or that she's honestly trying to advance any political agenda. She's just trolling for attention so she can sell more books.


As to her ultimate motive, this strikes me as quite likely.



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05 Mar 2007, 6:30 am

Flagg wrote:
Ann Coultar lacks any sort of respect for her foes. You at least most show your equals a spot of dignity and grace, for enemies are a great gift to you. They are only people who are willing to tell you the truth.


why should she show them any respect when they act like they do :lol: The hate filled rabid liberal types are total morons.

People try to explain something to other people and are told to mind their own businesss. The moron is going to do it their own way and when it don't work out people once again try to offer some advice and the moron once again tells them to mind their own business. After that all anyone can do is laugh at the morons and make fun of them. There is no reason at all to respect morons who won't listen and continue to do things the wrong way or hard way.


"Liberalism is a godless religion. Hello! Anyone there? I've leapt beyond calling you traitors and am now calling you GODLESS. "
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Only GODLESS people would vote to go overthrow the government of Iraq and than say ok lets leave and let them fight for control and kill each other by the millions. :lol:

liberals are MORONS.



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05 Mar 2007, 8:01 am

Eh, frankly I think Liberals have been fairly patient with people like this. At least in the media.

Unless you're talking about the individual Liberals. In which case by in large she's being treated exactly as she should be by in large. Some crazy lady that has no business being in the media.


As far as being called Godless. Thanks ^_^ I wouldn't want to be associated with the whacko religious types. I hold positions Jesus stands a chance of supporting.


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05 Mar 2007, 8:24 am

Xuincherguixe wrote:
Eh, frankly I think Liberals have been fairly patient with people like this. At least in the media.

Unless you're talking about the individual Liberals. In which case by in large she's being treated exactly as she should be by in large. Some crazy lady that has no business being in the media.


As far as being called Godless. Thanks ^_^ I wouldn't want to be associated with the whacko religious types. I hold positions Jesus stands a chance of supporting.


why doesn't she have any business being in the media, because she won't spread the lies of the wacko liberals ?

only losers & leeches vote for democraps, the party of the nonproductive dregs of society.



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05 Mar 2007, 9:06 am

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why doesn't she have any business being in the media, because she won't spread the lies of the wacko liberals


Because when she isn't outright lying, she's making outrageous claims with little to no evidence. For all the rights claims of Liberal Media Spin, Conservative Media is a thousand times worse.

Just because they complain about it doesn't mean they aren't,

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only losers & leeches vote for democraps, the party of the nonproductive dregs of society.

And the party of people who have values beyond that what some lunatic preacher tells them.


The Republican party is the one that lies to the people, pretending that they're there for the little guy when they're bleeding them dry for corporate monopolies.


The Democratic party is messed up, but the Republican party is outright psychotic.

I may not like Conservatism, but I accept that they have a right to their opinion. But the Republican party is nearly fascist.

Even if your claims of 'whacko' were true, and frankly I think you listen to Ann Coulter too much if you're talking like this. That's order of magnitude better than a cabal of sociopaths that are willing to sacrifice the lives of everyone else just to make themselves better.

I'll choose inept over frighteningly inept mass murderers any day. (Turns out Republicans can't manage the Economy as well as Democrats. Another case of that just because they're bitching and yelling all the time doesn't mean they can do the job better)


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05 Mar 2007, 12:44 pm

"Turns out Republicans can't manage the Economy as well as Democrats"

:lol: :lol: :lol: ROFLMFAO :lol: :lol: :lol:

Is that what the mainstream media told you to think :lol:



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05 Mar 2007, 1:49 pm

Liberals define anything that is not liberal as "Extreme Right Wing", hence, the only non-lilberal news channel is dubbed as such.



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05 Mar 2007, 4:26 pm

Johnnie wrote:
why should she show them any respect when they act like they do Laughing The hate filled rabid liberal types are total morons.


Do you think all liberals are "hate filled?" Do you honestly think your politically opposition lack good intentions?

Johnnie wrote:
People try to explain something to other people and are told to mind their own businesss. The moron is going to do it their own way and when it don't work out people once again try to offer some advice and the moron once again tells them to mind their own business. After that all anyone can do is laugh at the morons and make fun of them. There is no reason at all to respect morons who won't listen and continue to do things the wrong way or hard way.


You can't just shut your ears out to other people's ideas just based on some kind of ideology. You have to consider every idea based on whether it works or not. Ranting about "morons" doesn't solve anything. Slurs certainly doesn't either.

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"Liberalism is a godless religion. Hello! Anyone there? I've leapt beyond calling you traitors and am now calling you GODLESS. "


See, this is exactly the stuff that turned me away from her. It's just useless screaming polemics. Not intellectual discussion, just anger.

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liberals are MORONS.


Character insults are so utterly meaningless and foolish. All you do is reinforce stereotypes that people have already have formed about your said group. You haven't demonstrated cleverness, just ignorance.

By the way, technically, I could be called a "liberal," since the word has several different definitions, and the meaning has often been interpreted differently. This is another reason I think Coulters stuff (and people like Shaun Hannity) are just counter-intuitive.



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05 Mar 2007, 4:30 pm

Xuincherguixe wrote:
Eh, frankly I think Liberals have been fairly patient with people like this. At least in the media


The mainstream press has a history of extremist rhetoric itself. Quoted from Patterico's Pontificate:

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* National Public Radio legal affairs correspondent Nina Totenberg:

[I]f there is retributive justice [Sen. Jesse Helms] will get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it.

* USA Today syndicated columnist Julianne Malveaux, on Clarence Thomas:

I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease.

* Washington Post syndicated columnist Richard Cohen:

For hypocrisy, for sheer gall, [Newt] Gingrich should be hanged.

* Comedian and (former) talk show host Craig Kilborn [Caption under footage of George W. Bush]:

Snipers Wanted

* Members of the St. Petersburg Democratic Club:

And then there’s Rumsfeld who said of Iraq “We have our good days and our bad days.” We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say “This is one of our bad days” and pull the trigger.

* Actor Alec Baldwin on Conan O’Brien:

[I]f we were in other countries, we would all right now, all of us together, all of us together would go down to Washington and we would stone Henry Hyde to death! We would stone him to death! [crowd cheers] Wait! Shut up! Shut up! No shut up! I’m not finished. We would stone Henry Hyde to death and we would go to their homes and we’d kill their wives and their children. We would kill their families.

* Comedian Chris Rock:

If President Clinton would pardon me I would whip Starr’s ass right now. I will get a crew from Brooklyn and we will stomp him like, like, we’re Savion Glover. We’ll stomp him like it’s bringing da noise.

* Director Spike Lee on Charlton Heston:

Shoot him with a .44 caliber Bulldog.

* James Carville on Ken Starr:

He’s one more mistake away from not having any kneecaps.

* Syndicated columnist Alexander Cockburn:

There is a sound case to be made for dropping a tactical nuclear weapon on the Cuban section of Miami. The move would be applauded heartily by most Americans. Alas, Operation Good Riddance would require the sort of mature political courage sadly lacking in Washington, D.C., these days.

* Columnist, author, media pundit, journalist, and newspaper editor Dan Savage:

My plan? Get close enough to Bauer to give him the flu, which, if I am successful, will lay him flat just before the New Hampshire primary. I’ll go to Bauer’s campaign office and cough on everything. Phones and pens. Staplers and staffers. I even hatch a plan to infect the candidate himself; I’ll keep a pen in my mouth until Bauer drops by his offices to rally the troops. And when he does, I’ll approach him and ask for his autograph, handing him the pen from my flu-virus-incubating mouth.


Recently there was a faux documentary that featured staged the assassination of President Bush. There are numerous other examples of things like this.



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05 Mar 2007, 4:53 pm

Xuincherguixe wrote:
For all the rights claims of Liberal Media Spin, Conservative Media is a thousand times worse.


Can you provide some evidence of how this is the case? As the "Conservative Media" consists of Fox News, The Washington Times, the New York Post, the Wall Street Journal Editorial Page, most of talk radio stations, and half the blogosphere, while liberal media consists of just about everything else the Conservatives would have to be pretty freakin' biased to be one thousand times worse.

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And the party of people who have values beyond that what some lunatic preacher tells them.


I, a registered Republican, condemned her remarks (I actually raised the topic), as well as the crowd's reaction. Most of the Republican blogosphere condemned the remarks. The leading Republican presidential candidates condemned her remarks.

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The Republican party is the one that lies to the people


Name some specific lies the "Republican party" spreads to the people.

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pretending that they're there for the little guy when they're bleeding them dry for corporate monopolies.


Really? I believe the free-market system is the most effective in keeping "the little guy" out of poverty. I believe that a heavily regulated system will lead to heavy poverty. Do you believe I am a liar?

Xuincherguixe wrote:
The Democratic party is messed up, but the Republican party is outright psychotic.


Isn't it possible that Republicans merely disagree with you?

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I may not like Conservatism, but I accept that they have a right to their opinion. But the Republican party is nearly fascist.


Really? Republicans wish to create a Corporatist state in which government and economy are intermixed? That would be rather harmful to a free-market economy. Do Republicans want to create addition public welfare programs like the Fascists did? Do the Republicans (many of them) call for judges to follow the Constitution as it is written rather then make up new laws indicate really an attempt to suspend it?

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Even if your claims of 'whacko' were true, and frankly I think you listen to Ann Coulter too much if you're talking like this.


Well, if you are talking about Johnnie, then perhaps we agree.

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That's order of magnitude better than a cabal of sociopaths that are willing to sacrifice the lives of everyone else just to make themselves better.


Uh...war for oil?

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I'll choose inept over frighteningly inept mass murderers any day. (Turns out Republicans can't manage the Economy as well as Democrats.


We Republicans are mass murderers? I guess you must think I am equivalent of a almost fascist mass-murderer sympathizer then. By your definition I guess FDR was a mass murderer too, not to mention Bill Clinton (did you know he ordered American bombers to fly extra high in the Kosovo campaign to avoid American fatalities but thus increased civilian causalities on the ground; but no I don't think he's a mass murderer).

Oh, that "mass-murder" total in Iraq is down. The Lancet study claiming 650,000 dead was a fraud. It sure wasn't nice to lie about those totals in Iraq. Hopefully it won't matter though, the surge has been very effective so far. It would be good that everyone wants it to work as it would be horrible to think so one would want anything but a peaceful stable Iraq.