Are Dragons real?

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Is this just one of those silly counter arguments for the existence of god quite like the flying spaghetti monster theory or are you hoping to have us give an honest answer about dragons?

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Aspergers always perfect spelling and grammar.

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The film was represented as fiction, and its intent was to demonstrate, by allegory, the importance of imagination to the pursuit of science.

The peril of lacking imagination is two-fold.

In the first instance, a person lacking in imagination might assume that an idea must be ridiculous because of the fact that that person cannot imagine that it could ever be true. For instance, evolution is an extraordinary notion that upsets many people very deeply. It is hard for many of us to imagine how we could be related to a bird, much less an annelid!

In the second instance, a person lacking in imagination might assume that an idea "must be so" because it has not been disproved...which makes the unimaginative assumption that the only alternative to skepticism is belief in one particular thing. For instance, someone might say, "You cannot prove that God does not exist, so it is clear that your atheism is an unreasonable proposition!" I cannot prove that the world wasn't created by a magical dragon, either...or my Lady:



If you are allowed to make a religion out of any being that you might imagine to be divine, then I could propose several alternatives that are much less unsavory than the wretched being that is described in the Book of Numbers.

Ultimately, the reason that I am an atheist is not that I find the notion of a god to be too extraordinary, but I am really just morally revolted by that genocidal monster that certain people call a "god." By comparison, I am actually quite gentle with people who believe in dragons, werewolves, vampires or past lives. I would never tell a person that he is ridiculous to believe he has a "dragon spirit" or something like that. I think it's wonderful that someone could have such a noble and charming soul.

The deity described in the Book of Numbers ordered the murder of children out of personal spite. If you worship such a creature, then you are simply a bad person.

Its good that you consider those with imagination to be wonderful with noble and charming souls, seem too many here willing to be negative towards those who do not think as narrowly as them.

I wonder though why you are so harsh therefore against those who worship the God of the Jews?
I can see why you might consider that God bad but to say his people are simply "bad".
Maybe you could put yourself in their shoes as you do with the charming people who believe in imaginary dragons by considering what they think about the actions of their God?

For instance what would you think of a culture who burn their firstborn infants alive in worship of their pagan god?
Would you like them to live in your own country and teach your own people their customs to the extent that soon you would be joining them, gleefully burning your child alive?

Imagine if the modern day Muslims did that, I only use the example as we have already learnt to hate them and think them worthy of destruction, how much more so if you saw them burning children alive at the mosque at the end of your street?
How would you feel about such a people?, would you consider maybe the world would be better off without such ones?, be honest with yourself.

Or another reason why worshipers of the God of the Jews might overlook his seemingly brutal ways, those people in Numbers were infected with the DNA of the Nephalim, to avoid the whole Human race becoming infected, they had to be eradicated, in effect, they were not Human, think of Invasion of the body snatchers, should those aliens have been allowed to remain, at the expense of Human kind?

Whilst you may not agree with the reasoning, perhaps you can see that people might have a reason to worship the doer of such seemingly evil deeds apart from being simply "bad"?

Because he is a genocidal sociopath. Prime example, Book of Numbers 31, particularly verses 18 and 19.

Other places in the Torah are just as bad. For instance, consider what it says about people born of "forbidden marriage" in Deuteronomy 23:2. To the "tenth generation" seems like condemning people for things they had nothing to do with. It is needless cruelty. It is cruelty for cruelty's sake.

Considering your history of genocide and oppression against innocents, including gay people, and also your history of justifying slavery and your historical treatment of women?

Is it possible that you are just evil?It's not imaginary to them.

Screwy.

I am an atheist in a culture full of people who customarily do other evil things, even to their own offspring. What is there to keep me from being a rebel in a different culture?

And yet took their little girls as wives? They took little girls as plunder and raped them, you fool. Are you mentally sick enough to think that there was some justification for this?

Inventing justifications for the murder of women and children? Morally, you may as well be rolling in your own feces and asking me to tell you that you smell like roses. Don't rub your feces in my face and expect me to call it chocolate.