Does God follow his WORD? Or is it --- do as I say and not a

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Now that we've gone for three pages on tangents lets go back to the original topic.

The topic is "does God follow his own rules?".

The answer is: of course he doesnt. Of course its 'do as I say, and not as I do' because it would impossible for a deity to function otherwise. A diety, and a human, are different entities so different rules would have to apply if a deity really existed.

Assuming God exists how would a person apply the Ten Commandments to God himself?

Is he supposed follow the stricture "thou shalt not steal"?. He owns everything in Creation so how could he steal the property of others even if he wanted to? Ditto "thou shalt not covet".

Murder? If the Universe had a creator then that creator already pre programmed us all to be mortal- so by definition he is already guilty of being the greatest mass murderer possible- because he murders us all. So you can't postulate a ruling deity who is not a mass murderer.

And so on through the commandments.

I respectfully disagree with the assumptions upon which your question is based.

Assumptions:
There is a god.
It communicates in Hebrew.
Its will is knowable.
These writings are this entities telepathic transferred thought.
These writings accurately reflect the thoughts of this entity.
etc.................

Well done.

In my reference to the Father Complex I was thinking more of archetype fathers and not necessarily your own. Apologies if I brought poor memories to mind.

"But I don't agree that philosophies are a search for rules. For me, philosophies are a search for understanding."

I understand what you mean and to me, that understanding is used to formulate the best rules to live life by.

A good understanding of justice for instance would help develop our various laws and we would live by them.

Regards
DL

Logical.

Christians will not like you but I do.

Martin Luther.
“Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.”
“Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has.”

Regards
DL

I do not agree with the assumptions either but to engage believers I have to go by their assumptions.

Regards
DL

Did he seriously say that?!?!?!?.....WOWOWOWOWOW!! !! !

Thanks for posting that!

With my father comment, I found both his passing and the archetypal to be closely connected. His passing became a revelation of the inbuilt reaction, not just to him, but also to the archetypal - if that makes sense.

As for philosophy, I don't seek rules. If anything, I seek less rules. I don't know when we evolved to require rules, but humans long ago went rule crazy. We have our own inbuilt nanny state and some of us want more or that. Not me. When it comes to rules, less is more.

We have become so insistent on rules that people will follow laws before ethics. Not all that is lawful is profitable. And ethics to me are matters of logic and empathy, yet people want to codify them into commandments. Laws and rules are slavery. Philosophy, logic and empathy are their antidote.

I totally agree with this, and I also lost my father a year ago in May, and experienced a similar experience.

My father was in law enforcement for 46 years in a very patriarchal set of mind and body emotional imbalance.

I finAlly became my own father with feminine and masculine nature balanced; something my father never could do on the feminine part in expressing his emotion in cognitive empathy hardly at all; but yeah, par for the course for some forms of Autism with likely his phenotypical characteristics enhanced by environmental factors.

His identical twin brother, who left law enforcement and stayed with his family still had and has difficulty expressing himself in emotions but has always been a steadfast supporter of all of what his children do, and that truly is a gift to have both a mother and father like that.

But seriously, all my challenges in life are blessings to me now, as all the pain and pleasure makes who I am in a life of total bliss, for NOW..

The major problem I see with most organized religions is the suppression of human nature, particularly the freedom of sensual and sexual expression.

Humans are driven to create and produce much more than children through the libido, and even science now shows this as true, per general human creativity and productivity.

Truly the Muslim world does not have a chance in competing against a country that has the kind of expression in sexual freedom that the U.S. does outside of illusory fears of closed minded and OUT OF bodied balanced churches.

To cover human up is to cover up heart, soul, and spirit, at the core driving force of that in the expression of human sensuality and sexuality that drives human emotion, as well, through physical intelligence.

The reason sex sells is it is the main GOD GIVEN AKA Mother Nature TRUE driving force of human being, at least for healthy human beings, fully expressed.

And males are far far behind women on that.

But I for one, BREAK THAT mold, and there's nothing much better than meeting a 'strange' and beautiful young woman who appreciates my skills in dance, and cautioning her I do "FREE verse nude Poetry", when she asks to read my poetry online, and her asking me for the Internet link to see THAT.

Human Nature at it's best, is what that IS, FULLY TURNED ON! FULLY FrEE!

IF THERE IS any miracle in my life, it is that 20 something year-old women, IN THE REAL WORLD, still appreciate my body VERY MUCH, at age 54..

AND I STILL stay monogamous with my wife, per the BILL CLINTON definition of sex, per the the modern version of virtual TOTAL human freedom OF EXPRESSION online, IN legal RESTRICTED ADULT Google sponsored BLOGGER WAYS.

And interestingly enough, Google was going to censor it, recently, as a change in internal private corporation rule, until an outcry of customers influenced them to reverse that decision, in favor of Free Expression of Human Identity.

Truly what I do is a new age form of Renaissance Straight Male Nude Art; however, although I DO NOT DO porn, now, I respect the value of Porn, as an alternate route to reproduction, and perhaps AN ALTERNATE AVENUE away from criminal activity, in a world where reducing the population is one of the top issues for long term survival of a species with dwindling resources for subsistence.

So yeah, in a way, PORN RULES, and in my own way, per metaphor, I am a (one of millions) naked leader of that, like the 'Egyptian GOD MIN', except I raise my left arm, instead of right arm, for a balanced way, with Rasta Lion iPhone, in the other hand, instead of the MIN 'way' on 'that' as I 'ain't' afraid of the left, like some folks are, AT ALL.

The world is populated enough; it's time for an alternate route of relaxing RELIGIOUS RULE that 'HEALS' THAT.

AND at least in the U.S., and other tRuly FREE COUNTRIES, IT'S WORKING, AS FERTILITY RATES ARE DROPPING, OVERALL, whatever the actual impact of GREatER human freedom of expression is on THAT.

72,000 virtual online virgins IN free AND EASILY ACCESSIBLE VIEW FOR VIRTUAL VOYEUR REALITY, just BEATS THE HELL OUT OF THE DEVIL OF THAT OTHER TYPE OF ILLUSORY DRIVEN RELIGIOUS MARTYRDOM, in a false PROPHET of Mother Nature TRUE PROMISED afterlife of only 72 virgins, or whatever that number is, by doing the suicide bomber stuff.

HAVING sex with someone and putting it up online, consensually as such, is A MUCH BETTER RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE AND EXPRESSION FOR WORLD PEACE; AND the GOD of Nature 'kNOWS' THAT! TOO!

'Sexual Healing' is COOL!



And I do not kNOw how but I intuitively kNOW that THE 'REAL Jesus' and HIS OR HER wife OR HUSBAND WILL stamp IT WITH 'tHEIR' APPROVAL!

He said a lot o foolish things ut was only one of many Christians who thought women beneath dogs.

The word and works of God is quite clear, that women were made either to be wives or prostitutes. – Martin Luther, Reformer (1483-1546), Works 12.94

No gown worse becomes a woman than the desire to be wise. – Martin Luther, Reformer (1483-1546)

Men have broad and large chests, and small narrow hips, and more understanding than women, who have but small and narrow breasts, and broad hips, to the end they should remain at home, sit still, keep house, and bear and bring up children. – Martin Luther, Reformer (1483-1546), Table Talk

“If a woman grows weary and, at last, dies from childbearing, it matters not. Let her die from bearing - she is there to do it.”
- Martin Luther

“Be a sinner and sin strongly, but more strongly have faith and rejoice in Christ.”
Martin Luther

Regards
DL

Man has always sought order. Order is all about following rules.

If we were all intelligent enough to do the right things then no rules would be required but that is not the case.

A good analogy for this issue is our roads. Imagine the carnage if we ever tried to remove the rules.

Rules are here to serve and protect the more intelligent from the less intelligent.

We like order and may be pushed to make rules from our instinct to live long and prosper.

Regards
DL

Hmm.. in tHis regard.. maybe Martin Luther is the metaphor of Anti-Christ and the rest of 'that' way away from 'Christ'.. as metaphor as well.....

As in ALL things a balance is required for a 'good' life.

There is reason and there is art.

Reason rules...

Art Loves...

Without the two in balance..

there can be no 'Christ'.....

as human

being...

I used to think so too. Animal Farm, Lord of the Flies, etc.

A recent road researcher concluded that the number of road signs these days, meant to improve safety, is actually counter productive because people either miss them or are distracted by them. They found that fewer roadside instructions actually works better. Fewer signs = less carnage. But they won't adopt it because voters believe more rules is better.

People now cite rules rather than morals. If it's legal, that's all that matters. I don't know how old you are, but when I was a kid people would say, "Hey don't do that. It's not right." And people would listen. These days rules are our moral framework. Right and wrong are out, rules are in.

We have become infatuated with rules.

All priests a imam are lying continually so trying to dither them out is hard task.

Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship.

Faith is a way to quit using, "God given" power of Reason and Logic, and cause the faithful to embrace doctrines that moral people reject.

The God of the OT says, “Come now, and let us reason together,” [Isaiah 1:18]

How can literalists reason with God when they must ignore reason and logic and discard them when turning into literalist?

Those who are literalists can only reply somewhat in the fashion that Martin Luther did.
“Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.”
“Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has.”

This attitude effectively kills all worthy communication that non-theists can have with theist. Faith closes the mind as it is pure idol worship.

Literalism is an evil practice that hides the true messages of myths. We cannot show our faith based friends that they are wrong through their faith colored glasses. Their faith also plugs their ears.

Regards
DL

If a friend rejects me, he chooses not to come into my house and walks away on his own. That is the same with God.

Now your just a liar. Typical Christian.

Luke 19:27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.

Regards
DL