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10 Mar 2015, 9:26 pm

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No one, sure there might be mega corp families that have lots of money but there is no king figure head of the United States that I pay homage to unless you count the president

You "pay homage" to the president? I see him (and all other presidents) merely as my employee or public servant.

It is telling that President Jefferson once said that, of all his titles, he was most proud of the title "public servant." He also said that "[w]hen a man assumes a public trust he should consider himself a public property."

The world would be a much better place if our public servants believed similarly.


Whoa lets slow it down. I meant I recognize that the president is the president. Should have worded that differently. I'm not an anarchist. Jefferson was by far my favorite president.



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10 Mar 2015, 10:11 pm

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10 Mar 2015, 11:11 pm

Hmmm...., Probably the economy.


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10 Mar 2015, 11:43 pm

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I KNEW IT!


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10 Mar 2015, 11:44 pm

Feyokien wrote:
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No one, sure there might be mega corp families that have lots of money but there is no king figure head of the United States that I pay homage to unless you count the president

You "pay homage" to the president? I see him (and all other presidents) merely as my employee or public servant.

It is telling that President Jefferson once said that, of all his titles, he was most proud of the title "public servant." He also said that "[w]hen a man assumes a public trust he should consider himself a public property."

The world would be a much better place if our public servants believed similarly.


Whoa lets slow it down. I meant I recognize that the president is the president. Should have worded that differently. I'm not an anarchist. Jefferson was by far my favorite president.


As far as favorite Presidents go, I'm a Lincoln man.


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10 Mar 2015, 11:53 pm

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...Please, define 'real democracy'.

The best definition for a "real democracy" has been mistakenly attributed to Benjamin Franklin having said that "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch." Democracy is, practically, that brutal.


I am familiar with the quote. But I wanted an answer from GnosticBishop ;) .



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11 Mar 2015, 12:19 am

the maxim that Rothschilds laid down as fundamental, is: "Let us control the money of a country and we care not who makes its laws." IOW, the people who control the money supply have the lion's share of the [levers of] power, and by dint of this qualify as kings [over us 99%ers] of a sort.



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11 Mar 2015, 12:26 am

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the maxim that Rothschilds laid down as fundamental, is: "Let us control the money of a country and we care not who makes its laws." IOW, the people who control the money supply have the lion's share of the [levers of] power, and by dint of this qualify as kings [over us 99%ers] of a sort.


Very true.


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11 Mar 2015, 6:38 am

Who ever owns the Federal Reserve is the King of America.



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11 Mar 2015, 8:42 am

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The USA is a republic; it doesn't have a King.


When the vote is rigged and politicians are bought ad paid for by oligarchs, only the less astute will think they live in anything other than an oligarchy.

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To the rich or to the rest of us?

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11 Mar 2015, 9:00 am

Sigbold wrote:
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...Please, define 'real democracy'.

The best definition for a "real democracy" has been mistakenly attributed to Benjamin Franklin having said that "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch." Democracy is, practically, that brutal.


I am familiar with the quote. But I wanted an answer from GnosticBishop ;) .


Not to argue with Webster too much but ---
Democracy is the notion of government by the people and having your vote have a meaning. Each of us is to have a chance to change something. That chance is no longer a possibility for the vast majority of us. Our power of the people has been usurped by the oligarchs.

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11 Mar 2015, 11:56 am

GnosticBishop wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
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The USA is a republic; it doesn't have a King.


When the vote is rigged and politicians are bought ad paid for by oligarchs, only the less astute will think they live in anything other than an oligarchy.

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Power is the most powerful illusion.


To the rich or to the rest of us?

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I should say pride, but power can change a person just as much.

Power can corrupt anyone whose morals are not strong enough not to abuse it without motive.
When a person abuses their power without motive, then they have no reason to have that power.

When a person is prideful, it can blind their morals directly by giving them a false sense of authority.

Best not let your pride or your power outstrip your morals, or you will not be yourself.


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11 Mar 2015, 4:29 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Feyokien wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
Feyokien wrote:
No one, sure there might be mega corp families that have lots of money but there is no king figure head of the United States that I pay homage to unless you count the president

You "pay homage" to the president? I see him (and all other presidents) merely as my employee or public servant.

It is telling that President Jefferson once said that, of all his titles, he was most proud of the title "public servant." He also said that "[w]hen a man assumes a public trust he should consider himself a public property."

The world would be a much better place if our public servants believed similarly.


Whoa lets slow it down. I meant I recognize that the president is the president. Should have worded that differently. I'm not an anarchist. Jefferson was by far my favorite president.


As far as favorite Presidents go, I'm a Lincoln man.


I would be if not for a single line, "If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it"
Not really a man of morals but a decent strategist who knew how to play the situation in his favor. The Emancipation proclamation only occurred to deter British support to the South. The war wasn't greatly about slavery until Lincoln highlighted it. It was a war against federal control from Washington in the affairs of states.



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11 Mar 2015, 4:42 pm

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...The war wasn't greatly about slavery until Lincoln highlighted it. It was a war against federal control from Washington in the affairs of states.

Indeed, and the disproportionate taxation of "raw goods" (mostly southern states) compared to "manufactured goods" (mostly northern states).


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11 Mar 2015, 4:46 pm

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uh, if you actually said that to him, he would quickly demur, pointing up to the heavens...