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opposing forced vaccinations doesn't make people anti gay . get it through your head not everyone is so party loyal like you to the point they blindly follow the party line exactly.

the left supports gay's civil liberties while opposing gun owners civil liberties. they also oppose christians libiteries. the left is a giant hypocrite. they only do what they do for votes.

right back at you on the bold part. maybe if the left stopped picking and choosing what liberties should matter they'd be more moral.

Sharia law, in America?!?!

turns out one doesn't need a church to be married, though theres a bunch that marry gays. do most people even get married in churches anymore?

suppose if you cater to nazis killing jews then you aren't any way part of genocide right? oddly the world took a different view post ww2. don't support things you disagree with. if a gay hair cutter can refuse to service a anti gay person then why can't an anti gay person refuse service to gays. you can't have your cake and eat it too. you can't say do as I say not as I do.

build a wall around california, everyone who wants to live there gets vaccinated mandatory and leave the rest of use alone. we'd rather take risks with freedom then have no freedom and limit the risk a tiny bit for fake security feeling.

I think it's a great idea, quit charging for a marriage license and keep your nose out of marriage. Let the churches do it. Best idea I've read all day. I would be all for the gov staying out of all of them and just let individual churches marry. That sounds like the ultimate solution to this dilemma to me.

If the government wasn't involved in the first place, it wouldn't be an issue.

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If someone is abusive, anyone has the right to refuse service rather than put up with it. That goes for anyone regardless of who they are. I believe everyone should respect everyone else, first priority. That would solve a lot of problems.

Seriously, when have Christians and gun owners been discriminated against as gays and blacks have been? Neither of these groups ever face hatred and violence in their everyday lives like gays and blacks have.
And as for me being blindly partisan - - I suggest you get to know me, rather than relying on second hand, prejudiced opinions by who I call the "usual suspects."

But by that logic, a racist business person could refuse service to blacks, as they had during segregation days.

I think that you fail to appreciate just how bad some of these diseases were and that measles, which was supposed to have been eradicated in the United States in 2000 via mass immunization but is now making a comeback due to declining vaccination rates in certain parts of the country, and so fail to understand how important vaccines are. (It has been said that vaccines are a victim of their own success.) Measles, I must tell you, is a particularly serious, potentially fatal disease that can permanently debilitate a person.

Also, your use of the word FORCED is misleading. It appears that you have generally ignored my posts which made clear just how mass vaccination is achieved. I am not going to explain how it is any more. I've already done it in the other thread. If you keep ignoring my posts, then that is YOUR problem.

Center to most what we call the American "progressive" world view these days is the belief that progressives are more intelligent then the "right wingers" or" tea partiers" etc.. Anybody who disagrees with them does so for three main reasons, they are racist or some other "ist" , they were brainwashed by some sort of propaganda and too dumb to know it, they are directly being paid off. Being able to have a mind of their own rarely enters into it. This dovetails into what was written above. What we called "liberal" in the 1960's and 1970's was optimistic, idealistic for the working-middle class. Now "middle America" is looked upon with anything from suspicion to contempt. A lot of the reasons for the change is reactive and I have a very harsh view of the "the right" but this is a thread about "the left". What I wrote above is not necessary about professional politicians in the Democratic party or people on WP (many who by definition are outsiders from the two American mainstreams or literally not American). Support for
government regulations(actual regulations are often for different reasons) have gone from generally helping people to controlling them for there own good. Outside of the true old style left is there any genuine pro union people left?. There is not Scott Walker type complete open enmity towered unions on the left but genuine support has dried up.

I see elements of the control them for their own good because they are to stupid to understand in neurotypical Autism Politics. Autism Speaks started, headquartered New York , Judge Rotenberg Center Massachusetts (90+ percent of prisoners from and supported by New York State and arguably most New York City's progressive mayor ever New York City Sends $30 Million A Year To School With History Of Giving Kids Electric Shocks) . Anti Vaxx has a foothold in the wealthy "liberal" enclaves of California (in odd alignment with conspiracy theorists from the right).

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i don't think it should be evolved at ll other than to acknowledge two people are together and should have the stuff that comes with it. like being able to go in hospital room with SO, sharing name if wanted, all that stuff.

if gays want to be married religiously and their church won't do tit then clearly they are in the wrong church. that group of people don't like nor accept them so why are they going there. I wouldn't go there either. I won't go to a church that is anti gays, that doesn't seem to be following Jesus's teaching. we're suppose to love our follow man. God made them gay, who am I to question his plans.I just accept and love them like anyone else.



you assume just because someone is anti gay they are abusive. you can be nice to others while disagreeing with their lifestyle. if christians strongly against gay marriage can't refuse service then a hairdresser can't refuse to serve the christians either. fair is fair. so either no one can discriminate or everyone can?
double sidedness upsets me so much.

Yes, unless the racist business person is black.

How much would you like to inflate the money supply?

Zimbabwe made everyone wealthy and look where that got them.

Most the time it is a non issue because someone who is anti gay wouldn't have a gay hairdresser in the first place and if he is getting his hair cut by a gay and neither talks about it, neither would know, would they? If he starts bashing gays in front of the hairdresser, the hairdresser could say it is verbally abusive and not have to cut the man's hair.

So you finally see the wisdom of leaving religious decisions up to churches and not letting the state usurp the right to make those decisions.

Good.

nope I just don't believe in forcing people to do as you want. you think i don't see the reason for vaccines. I do I feel unsure about them as they keep making more and more and more. i know the drug company make billions of them and I don't trust their greed. the hpv had problems with it mistakes and errors were made. why are you so fast to trust greedy drug companies. if they found a cure for all illnesses that only needed to be used once and all future kids would have it in their system. they would burn it and make one that is required daily. this is who you put your full blind trust into.

the post made it seem like it was going be forced to everyone kids, adults all of them.
i will get my kids vaccinated for some things, after lots of research. i will not have them forced to get the ones I decided against.