White NAACP President pretends to be black
But "black" must mean something right?
The former CEO of the national NAACP , Ben Jealous is a recognized "black person". However, he looks white to me.
How do you reconcile "black people" who look white ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Jealous
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Yeah, no.
If she's been living as a black for years and feeling on the inside that she's one, then she's as black as anyone else out there.
That's kind of weird. We essentially agree. The only difference is that in philosophical terms, I only need a sincere assertion. In practical terms, I'll have to see for myself.
The young, very dark-skinned woman from the organization whom AJAM interviewed said it best, "Who cares?" The Board has declined comment. I can see why; that isn't really the kind of thing one issues in an official statement. Tbh, they said that they don't inquire about the race of their members or officers. Good on them, although I wouldn't care much if they did.
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No modern scientist would seriously and credibly propose that there are racial differences in the brain. There's no evidence for it. You can't cut out someone's cerebellum or hippocampus and say "this is a black hippocampus. This is a white cerebellum." This is the kind of thing a Nazi or KKK member would have us believe.
Modern science acknowledges that there are inherent neurological differences between races, by which a brain can be described as "black" or "white."
Fixed it for you again.
No modern scientist would seriously and credibly propose that there are sex differences in the brain. There's no evidence for it. You can't cut out someone's cerebellum or hippocampus and say "this is a female hippocampus. This is a male cerebellum." This is the kind of thing a Nazi or KKK member would have us believe.
Again, fixed it for you.
You should read up on the anatomical differences in the brain between the three races.
Basic stuff from Wiki:
The whole transracial aspect is pretty interesting to me, if race like gender is a social construct then identifying as another race shouldn't be seen as way less legitimate than identifying as another gender. You are what you are physically, you can try surgery to change that but whats in the head is what really matters right? It seems like a lot of "antiracist" SJWs share the obsession with blood quantum as racists do, they all seem to very much believe in the one drop rule and in their world "oppression" is how they gain status in their movement. Collectivizing guilt is a textbook tactic of racists. he idea of racial identity being fluid basically turns the entire concept of race on its head, its not real then and I think that's direction we should go. We don't divide ourselves on eye and hair color right so why skin?
We need to come together as one people, I'm thinking of the old Lincoln quote of "a house divided against itself cannot stand" and there will be no peace as long as continue to divide ourselves by race be it because malicious racism or "antiracism" or whatever, as long as this obsession is alive there will be racial strife. My blood is my blood alone, I don't share any responsibility what someone else did before I was born.
Racial and gender identity, race/gender obviously exist in the real world and are something that is pretty black & white and tangible but what really matters is the significance we give to it. We're all more different as individuals from one to another than we are from race to race or gender to gender, we don't discriminate against people for having a different eye or hair color for example again. I don't subscribe to the belief that we're all blank slates and that society is what shapes us entirely either tho, there are things innately imprinted on us biologically. Its pretty arrogant to think the humans are somehow immune the laws of nature and biology, human society is part of biology. When people say something is a social construct, its like they're saying something isn't real and that it was invented by some outside insidious force but its not any different society of bears or ants or lions or whatever. As far as I know, aliens or God or whatever didn't come down and introduce these "social constructs" to us so they've developed naturally.
I don't see any use for race in 2015, the fact that racial issues are so relevant today is a pretty sad reflection on our country and our culture and that's coming from all sides. Racism cannot end until we stop dividing ourselves by race or making the distinction, it should be a physical description and that's it. We can't sit around with chips on our shoulders and blame an entire race of people for our problems or past wrongs and then pretend that you're not racist, be mad at the person that specifically did you wrong but blaming some other person because they share the same skin color with that would be racist would it not? They keep us divided with race so we can never turn our attention to the real criminal puppet masters that run this planet.
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A human male being labeled as a "virgin" is much better example of a social construct.
How do you explain passing?
I mean passing as white or black or Puerto Riqueno, or whatever. Passing as a virgin would just be silly.
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A human male being labeled as a "virgin" is much better example of a social construct.
How do you explain passing?
I mean passing as white or black or Puerto Riqueno, or whatever. Passing as a virgin would just be silly.
idk, since I'm actually a full-Caucasian that can easily pass as a hispanic(i.e. tan w/ black hair, brown eyes)
Caucasian and "white" aren't the same thing in my opinion, but they aren't social constructs either.
I respectfully disagree therefore that "Everyone is multi-racial, there is no pure race..."
Of course, the vast majority of humans are as you say, but not quite all of them
Actually what you propose as pure is a false premise. This is not definitively proven.
For one the Khoisan (bushmen) are a different race Capoid considered to be older form of human than Congoloid/Bantu (archaic negraolid), but the buck doesn't stop there.
Why stop at homo sapiens?
Yes the idea of a species is it can't bread with another, but this is a relative concept. Ever heard of ring species? It mean that the concept of genetic purity is meaningless.
Yes the Khoisan genetic root is considered a bottleneck, however this is open to interpretation what this means.
A bottleneck is is exactly that. It can happen for a variety of reasons.
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A human male being labeled as a "virgin" is much better example of a social construct.
How do you explain passing?
I mean passing as white or black or Puerto Riqueno, or whatever. Passing as a virgin would just be silly.
idk, since I'm actually a full-Caucasian that can easily pass as a hispanic(i.e. tan w/ black hair, brown eyes)
Caucasian and "white" aren't the same thing in my opinion, but they aren't social constructs either.
That would make who can pass an absolute quality, no?
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A human male being labeled as a "virgin" is much better example of a social construct.
How do you explain passing?
I mean passing as white or black or Puerto Riqueno, or whatever. Passing as a virgin would just be silly.
idk, since I'm actually a full-Caucasian that can easily pass as a hispanic(i.e. tan w/ black hair, brown eyes)
Caucasian and "white" aren't the same thing in my opinion, but they aren't social constructs either.
That would make who can pass an absolute quality, no?
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she's a liar though has mad up much. that's the issue to me.
Anything like this (and I did read reports of this) needs to be elaborated. The media works on a drip feed basis, to encourage speculation. Sometime the revelation is accurate from the start, but this is not soemthign they worry about when choosing to carry the story.
Whether she was involved this incident or not, she is innocent until proven guilty under the law. That is a poit of principle.
This did strike me as odd, but the reports are also quite vague from what I have seen.
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If you have medical insurance, it probably covers optometry visits.
He looks utterly white which is not shocking given that his father is white (per the wiki link above the picture). President Obama's mother was white also but he looks black. So it all goes to show you can't go by looks.
Maybe genetic testing could settle it, if it's that important. Is it that important? Do multi-racial people have to pick a team?
And if multi-racial people pick a team and then have kids, are their kids obliged to pick the same team?
