Ever Wonder Why Humans Crave the Artificial?

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21 Nov 2015, 2:12 am

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21 Nov 2015, 2:39 am

blauSamstag wrote:
My theory is that it's because stuff was a lot more difficult, more expensive (in more than just monetary terms), and often lower quality way back when.

Or some mix of the above. For example, 70 years ago there was a lot more stuff made out of durable metals, but when you correct for inflation they actually cost far more than modern examples.

I get a chuckle out of people making "rustic" foodstuffs. Our ingredients today are far higher quality than they were even 30 years ago, in most regards.

When i look at western (e.g. european, etc) recipes from hundreds of years ago i have the inescapable conclusion that food sucked hundreds of years ago.

Some of it doesn't even make sense from a modern perspective. Like back when butchers cut meat across the long bones instead of at the joints. They wrote about having a "good joint of meat". Our experience of eating meat has been greatly enhanced both by the expanded knowledge of butchering and greater technology in tool making.

Our agriculture would blow the minds of people who lived 100 years ago. Yes there have been losses, like the fact that the ability to buy a fresh tomato any day of the year turned out, for the moment, to require that the tomato tastes like wet paper. But most fruits, vegetables, grains, etc that are grown today are better than they were 100 years ago.

We are tool makers and tool users. We improve our tools so that we can do better work with them and live better lives.

I mean honestly have you gone to a thrift store and felt the synthetic fabrics that were available in the 60's, 70's, and 80's? They were terrible compared to what you can get today.

The "back to nature" movements have all been shams. People leading lives of convenience who take advantage of their technology to go slumming in the sticks and dress down for a bit. It's exactly like millennial hipsters who for some reason think cassette tapes are cool. Cassette tapes suck. They always sucked. They sucked when they were introduced, they sucked when the technology matured, and they sucked when they were rendered obsolete.


Well, I don't think cassette tapes are that bad. You just need to get the good quality stuff, and a good system to play them on. But 8-tracks had superior sound. They were just a little more bulky, and a little weird in terms of how you had to switch tracks, and so forth. They were great when they came out, because there were no CD's, and you could not play vinyl records in a car without scratching them up!

CD's had a real problem in cars until they came out with "read ahead" technology to reduce skipping. Cassettes never had that problem, and all the noise from driving your car would make the Cassette Tape hum and 16kHz overhead hissing unnoticeable. Not a bad compromise at all, I think.

I like a lot of artificial things, but I do enjoy walking in a forest nearby, and exploring the outdoors sometimes. I like to cut fresh pineapple rather than eat it from the can. It really does taste better. And I prefer fresh air to stuffy inside air. I don't have air conditioning, but it's not a catastrophe here in Washington state.

But, gotta have a heater in winter, or at least a fire in the fireplace. :P


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21 Nov 2015, 3:07 am

i have bad news for you. unless you have visited a place where pineapple grows, you have never really tasted it.

Ripe pineapple does not travel. You've been eating it green all your life.



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21 Nov 2015, 3:09 am

blauSamstag wrote:
i have bad news for you. unless you have visited a place where pineapple grows, you have never really tasted it.

Ripe pineapple does not travel. You've been eating it green all your life.

You're probably right. But I still prefer that over the canned stuff.


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21 Nov 2015, 4:14 am

Edenthiel wrote:
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techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Occasionally you'll have a fashion swing like the 80's where everything will go super-gaudy and plastic, then we scare ourselves (the sheer quantity of aerosols, carcinogens, and occasional human torch when the edge of someone's fashion helmet or weave caught the tip of a cigarette was enough!).


I always thought that the biggest technological gap between two decades in the 20th century was the difference between the 1970s vs. the 1980s.

The early 80s movie "Tron" is a perfect example of this.

I was a child in the 1970's and so missed the back-to-nature, the craftiness, the resourcefulness that was part of the era until Disco came along. It was very much like the Craftsman movement of two generations prior. The 80's for me were...uncomfortable, not a great fit. I'd been waiting for the next wave of resourcefulness and back-to-nature, but of course it manifested in a completely different way this time around.


CDs becoming commercially available in the early 80s is another great example of the huge tech-gap between the two decades that I was referring to. However, I guess that mostly rich-people and a few others were the only ones to have them until around the early 1990s though.