Why is it bipolar can join military but aspies can't?

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04 Feb 2016, 7:17 pm

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i read an article in the past few weeks (sorry, don't remember which online source) that said the military is considering lifting the ban from service on mental illness. good news, as the ban was based on unfounded stigma.

10 years too late
I'm almost to the cut off age now. It's a young person game



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04 Feb 2016, 8:12 pm

Not true, Sly. You can go into the Army until you're 42, the other services until you're in your 30's. The Air Force, I believe, has a maximum age of 27.

I've never been in the Military--but being in the Military, for many people I know, is no bed of roses. My father was in the Army; he doesn't like talking about his experience in the Army.



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04 Feb 2016, 8:23 pm

^ You don't want to be joining the Army or any other branch at 42. Allowable or not it's just plain silly. Most new recruits are 18-20. Much older than that and you really will be out of place.


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04 Feb 2016, 8:28 pm

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^ You don't want to be joining the Army or any other branch at 42. Allowable or not it's just plain silly. Most new recruits are 18-20. Much older than that and you really will be out of place.


Popular on weekends, though. I foresee many, many beer runs …


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04 Feb 2016, 8:30 pm

I do know a guy who joined the Army so he could have a home to live in. He was 35. He succeeded quite well. He's now in the Army Reserves.



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04 Feb 2016, 8:48 pm

luan78zao wrote:
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^ You don't want to be joining the Army or any other branch at 42. Allowable or not it's just plain silly. Most new recruits are 18-20. Much older than that and you really will be out of place.


Popular on weekends, though. I foresee many, many beer runs …


Not in BT or AIT. Besides, another thing to consider is that a 42 YO Boot will have a harder time keeping up with 18-20 YO kids on the physical level.


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04 Feb 2016, 9:48 pm

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^ You don't want to be joining the Army or any other branch at 42. Allowable or not it's just plain silly. Most new recruits are 18-20. Much older than that and you really will be out of place.


Popular on weekends, though. I foresee many, many beer runs …


Not in BT or AIT. Besides, another thing to consider is that a 42 YO Boot will have a harder time keeping up with 18-20 YO kids on the physical level.

That and the very strict regiment of basic training life in general and having to snap to and obey people nearly half thier age like a trained dog won't likely set well with an older person, either. They will be too set in their ways and will think too highly of themselves to deal with all that.


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04 Feb 2016, 10:02 pm

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^ You don't want to be joining the Army or any other branch at 42. Allowable or not it's just plain silly. Most new recruits are 18-20. Much older than that and you really will be out of place.


Popular on weekends, though. I foresee many, many beer runs …


Not in BT or AIT. Besides, another thing to consider is that a 42 YO Boot will have a harder time keeping up with 18-20 YO kids on the physical level.


Of course not in Basic, but later if you're still stateside. I remember guys who were over 21 buying booze for their buddies. When I was in, a green ID would let you buy alcohol on any base, but now they're supposed to follow local laws.

As for the physical part, it depends on the individual. I'm in much better shape now, physically and mentally as well, than I was when I went through Great Lakes at 17, and more used to going without sleep too. I could do it again, no problem. Being the same age as everybody's dad would be weird, though.


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04 Feb 2016, 11:59 pm

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I'm on ssi


You're disabled and cannot work. The military is not going to take somebody who is currently disabled and cannot work.


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05 Feb 2016, 12:14 am

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As for the physical part, it depends on the individual. I'm in much better shape now, physically and mentally as well, than I was when I went through Great Lakes at 17, and more used to going without sleep too. I could do it again, no problem. Being the same age as everybody's dad would be weird, though.


So true, people who had kids (sleep deprivation) and lived healthy were ahead of the curve, not behind it. I was 19, but I struggled because I had never run a complete mile in my life and physical exhaustion seemed un-natural to me.


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05 Feb 2016, 12:58 am

...The military's who can/can't join rules are very elastic , subject both to individual option (Allowed and under-the-table) by recruiters and from-above " what we need now " changes in those rules .
Remember that late in Bush II's terms the Army needed soldiers so much that the must-not-have-felonies rules were greatly relaxed , and some kids with pretty heavy records got in ?



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05 Feb 2016, 2:42 am

Thought cut off was 34 but maybe that was just special forces.



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05 Feb 2016, 4:14 am

...How long was he in the full Army ? How old is he now ?
For other military services , for the OP , what about the Navy or Coast Guard ?



ote="kraftiekortie"]I do know a guy who joined the Army so he could have a home to live in. He was 35. He succeeded quite well. He's now in the Army Reserves.[/quote]



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05 Feb 2016, 8:44 am

I know he went through Basic, then went to AIT. I'm not sure how long he was in the "full" army. I know he's in the Reserves now. He's close to 40.



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05 Feb 2016, 3:33 pm

My bio mom joined the Army when she was around 33.She's an exceptional strong and mean individual so she did fine.
Later on she became a CO at the men's max units here.
She told me some crazy stories about leave.She went with friends to NOLA to party and they got smashed and rolled a drunk.Someone must have gotten to him first becuse he didn't have any valuables on him.Then they got tattoos and painted the town red.When they got up to catch the flight next morning there was a strange boot in the hotel room that didn't belong to any of them and no one knew where it came from.
Lord only knows what went on that night.

I though you could buy beer on base if you were eighteen and enlisted?A boy I was dating was sent on a beer run and he returned with the goods.Maybe he just had someone older purchase it.It was hillarious,we had all pooled our change and sent him to get the cheapest beer.It was the generic stuff, a white can with the words BEER on it.


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05 Feb 2016, 4:43 pm

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I though you could buy beer on base if you were eighteen and enlisted?A boy I was dating was sent on a beer run and he returned with the goods.Maybe he just had someone older purchase it.It was hillarious,we had all pooled our change and sent him to get the cheapest beer.It was the generic stuff, a white can with the words BEER on it.

Things have changed since WW1. It's 21 to buy booze on base.


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