Can you see an SJW-type person just by observation?

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04 Mar 2016, 10:31 am

Much better definition here. It's not a culture, just a label recently invented to describe a certain kind of on-line behavior.

"Social Justice Warrior", commonly abbreviated as "SJW", is a pejorative term for a person expressing or promoting socially progressive views, particularly relating to social liberalism, political correctness or feminism.[1][2] The accusation of being an SJW implies that a person is engaging in disingenuous social justice arguments or activism to raise their personal reputation.[3]



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04 Mar 2016, 10:34 am

Yep....a facetious reference to people who preach "social justice" type things--yet who seem hypocritical/disingenuous in doing so.

Nope....Can't tell if somebody is SJW-type person based upon merely looking at the person.



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04 Mar 2016, 11:07 am

Well, that's quite a few definitions so far... so, just as suspected, there is *no* clear and agreed upon definition of the term Social Justice Warrior...

Another dumbed-down political buzzword to avoid like the plague, it would seem...



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04 Mar 2016, 11:41 am

Jacoby wrote:
There is a stereotypical image of one just as there are 'neckbeards' but it's silly to categorize people and make assumptions on their beliefs from their appearance.



Clothing is a visual language. People wear the clothes they do(when they don't have to wear a uniform or dress according to an employers dress code)to identify themselves as members of a group to other members.

Social justice warriors tend to dress like hipters(if you dunno what hipsters dress like, try google images), punks, or a combination thereof. Many of them dye their hair unnatural shades and there are the female SJWs who wear leggings as pants as a political statement against "body policing". Also, the huge penciled eyebrows on women are a recent trend.

@Feyokien: People use their political ideology as a means to an end. Social justice warriors = SOCIAL CLIMBERS.



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04 Mar 2016, 12:27 pm

GGPViper wrote:
Well, that's quite a few definitions so far... so, just as suspected, there is *no* clear and agreed upon definition of the term Social Justice Warrior...

Another dumbed-down political buzzword to avoid like the plague, it would seem...

It's sort of a catch-all term for certain people. More specific definitions exist for the different types that fall under SJW.



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04 Mar 2016, 12:38 pm

Drake wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
Well, that's quite a few definitions so far... so, just as suspected, there is *no* clear and agreed upon definition of the term Social Justice Warrior...

Another dumbed-down political buzzword to avoid like the plague, it would seem...

It's sort of a catch-all term for certain people. More specific definitions exist for the different types that fall under SJW.
so when are you going to provide said definitions?



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04 Mar 2016, 2:29 pm

How do you define 'neckbeard', you can argue the semantics of these terms but really I think at its base level an SJW is a person that elevates themselves above others based on their own measure of their 'victimhood' and by scoring points against their oppressors and are in general just nasty unpleasant people. A lot of overlap with Hipster types, the type of people that get offended at anything on behalf of anyone. It is kind of funny that Gavin McInnes who one of the people that started this modern 'hipsterdom' is the complete opposite of that but I guess he's always been a contrarian.



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04 Mar 2016, 2:58 pm

Yes when I think SJW, the first thing to mind is the dirty tactics and reprehensible behaviour. But these also seem to always go hand in hand with the views they hold. I wish I knew why that was. Nice and honourable people holding SJW-esque views seem to be very few and far between. If they exist at all.



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04 Mar 2016, 4:50 pm

Jacoby wrote:
How do you define 'neckbeard', you can argue the semantics of these terms but really I think at its base level an SJW is a person that elevates themselves above others based on their own measure of their 'victimhood' and by scoring points against their oppressors and are in general just nasty unpleasant people. A lot of overlap with Hipster types, the type of people that get offended at anything on behalf of anyone. It is kind of funny that Gavin McInnes who one of the people that started this modern 'hipsterdom' is the complete opposite of that but I guess he's always been a contrarian.



Neckbeard is the modern equivalent of the "nerd", "dork", or "geek". Because the first 2 words have been co-opted by hipsters.



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04 Mar 2016, 4:57 pm

GGPViper wrote:
Well, that's quite a few definitions so far... so, just as suspected, there is *no* clear and agreed upon definition of the term Social Justice Warrior...

Another dumbed-down political buzzword to avoid like the plague, it would seem...


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04 Mar 2016, 8:37 pm

GGPViper wrote:
Well, that's quite a few definitions so far... so, just as suspected, there is *no* clear and agreed upon definition of the term Social Justice Warrior...

Another dumbed-down political buzzword to avoid like the plague, it would seem...


I disagree; while there is some argument about the specifics, most people will know who you're talking about when you use it, and it's a handy way of distinguishing the grievance seeking subsets of larger groups like feminists and progressives without broad brushing quite as badly. The worst feature of the term is it's unfortunate association with the political right, which will, ironically enough, lead to SJWs trying to broad brush you to poison the well.


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04 Mar 2016, 8:41 pm

GGPViper wrote:
Well, that's quite a few definitions so far... so, just as suspected, there is *no* clear and agreed upon definition of the term Social Justice Warrior...

Another dumbed-down political buzzword to avoid like the plague, it would seem...


Well, actually no. Here are the established traits of an SJW.

- a philosophy of activism for activism’s sake
- a dedication to rooting out behaviour they deem problematic, offensive, or unacceptable in others
- a custom of primarily identifying individuals by their sex, race, and sexual orientation
- a hierarchy of intrinsic morality based on the identity politics of sex, race, and sexual orientation
- a quasi religious belief in equality, diversity, and the inevitably of progress . . .

Their prey is anyone stupid enough to apologise or grant even the slightest concession for whatever the SJW have accused them of.

If you fear you may become the victim of a SJW attack, controversial figure Vox Day has provided a handy SJW Survival Guide which is an excerpt of his book, SJW's Always Lie.

All previous respondents to your question should hang their heads in shame for such a shameful display of information provision. However, I won't be demanding supplication on the grounds that I am no SJW.

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They're usually encountered on university campuses, Twitter, and Tumblr, so anyone older than 35 or so doesn't seem to realize that they exist, or if they're aware, not the full extent of the problem.


Shameful generalisation there, Dox, me old mucker. Us downtrodden old folks are doing our fair share to combat this authoritarian s**tshow.



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04 Mar 2016, 8:54 pm

Am I correct to believe that a person who believes in equality and diversity but respects others' differing beliefs is not an SJW?


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04 Mar 2016, 8:57 pm

adifferentname wrote:
Shameful generalisation there, Dox, me old mucker. Us downtrodden old folks are doing our fair share to combat this authoritarian s**tshow.


Guilty, but in my defense, I'm continually shocked at how many people seem completely unaware of the turn that modern lefty activism has taken lately, and I have to say, it usually breaks down along generational lines. My 40ish coworkers were absolutely appalled, for example, when I showed them some clips from the Yale protests last year, and were incredulous when I explained that this is a common style of activism among young people these days, while our teenage dishwashers knew exactly what I was talking about, and they're not even political.

I get a similar experience with feminists past their mid 30s, like they think these people are strawmen dreamed up to discredit their movement, when unfortunately they're all too real and all too common.


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04 Mar 2016, 9:02 pm

justkillingtime wrote:
Am I correct to believe that a person who believes in equality and diversity but respects others' differing beliefs is not an SJW?


Yes, lack of respect for differing beliefs is a defining trait of the SJW. If you can agree to disagree or see where someone who disagrees with you is coming from, you're not an SJW. On a related note, being anti-SJW does not mean being anti social justice, it just means being in favor of intellectual tolerance, charity, and critical thinking.


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04 Mar 2016, 9:09 pm

Thank you, Dox47. I was very confused but that makes sense.


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