The detrimental effects of pornography on youth today

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Yeah, society is screwed up, but it isn't because of porn. People just aren't coupling up anymore. Online dating sucks for men, because women don't think anyone is good enough for them. It sucks for women, because they get too many messages saying things like "hay bby wana f*k?"

I made no mention of mental health. Odd that you've chosen to perceive it that way. My concern is for those who have fallen foul of certain ideologies that are poisonous to critical thinking. And so it behooves me to respond in kind:

Really? Using ad hominems? That's just sad.



Got a study that demonstrates this assertion? This is another rehash of the video game violence nonsense. Young boys are perfectly adept at knowing the difference between fantasy and reality.

So if porn can not be eliminated, and nothing can be devised to draw people away from porn, then what else is there to do?

Get parents involved in their children's on-line activities whether those children are at home, at school, or at a friend's house?

Deny access to the Internet to anyone under the age of 21?

Teach children that sex is evil, dirty, and nasty, so that the fear of sexual expression rules their lives forever?

Seriously, I'm asking!

Or a variation : restricting access to some parts of the Internet to very young viewers. Face recognition softwares could be developed especially for this purpose, combined with ID check.

... use daddy's computer and put his picture in front of the camera ...

Anyone who has children, what methods would you implement for your own child?

A better question might be "What methods that actually work do you implement for your own child?"

Do you mean prevention? I'm not sure that's possible, never mind practical.

So mental well-being does not equal mental health. Interesting ... If you meant to challenge your opponents critical thinking, you should have done so.


Ad hominem refers to attacking a person rather than their argument. Like saying someone's mental well-being is flawed rather than addressing their argument. Saying your approach is "sad" is not ad hominem. If I said you were sad, that would be ad hominem and a personal attack, and I don't think that anyway.


Got a study that demonstrates this assertion?


I don't have children, but I suspect prevention is impossible. These days it's probably more of a matter of telling them how to interpret pornography and impress upon them that it is not an accurate representation of sex between most people.

*yawn*


The golden age you want to be back to when sexual purity was held in high regard is a golden age that never existed. Back in those days a woman could be raped on the first date and if she spoke out about it she'd be branded a whore. Also, 100 years ago the concept of marital rape didn't exist whatsoever. Because it was viewed as a woman's duty to have sex with her husband whether she wanted to or not.

If anything, porn is part of the sexual revolution which has given women more sexual freedom and demanded that men recognize that they are not entitled to sex from their wives and girlfriends. Some women really DO want casual sex without a relationship and don't want society judging them for doing something that involves mutual consent. The American idea is that sex is private: It is done in private and it's nobody's business as long as there are no kids involved and there's consent.

Hmm I guess I just didn't experience much of that and haven't really observed it among teens currently, of course within the circle of people I know all those who are still teens are more in the 18-20 range and my brothers girlfriend who's 16 but most are either turning 21 soon or just turned 21 and don't feel like an 'adult' yet. So it could be more an issue with younger adolecents/teens but if anything seems more recent because back when I was closer to adolecence it seemed more often than not porn was kind of seen as something to laugh at..kids got more got the thrill of 'oh I'm not supposed to watch this' but they didn't take the sex seriously.

Could simply be less of an issue here though and more of an issue where you live.

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You know what. That is a good catch on your part.

AI can learn to recognize a face with moving expressions in order to make the difference with a simple picture. Voice recognition can also help. There are a lot of potential tamper-free solutions, at least tamper-free for kids, not tamper-free for hackers but there aren't so many brilliant 12-year-old hackers.

http://dilbert.com/strip/1996-01-23

This strip is a good reminder on how good internet filters and rules are and how well they really work. The next day's comic is another good one on that topic.

At the end of the day though, it is up to the parents to make sure their children are educated in these regards. There are too many parents who are not following through on that responsibility and it is showing in our society. This includes both parents and includes girls as well as boys (after all, a father who is able to teach his daughter how to say "no" and mean it will create a girl who will not be coerced when the boys come calling). If the parents refuse to step up, then this is the society we will have and the problem will get worse, not better.

Oh, it can certainly be construed that way. The trouble with ambiguity is that making an assumption one way or the other automatically puts you at fault.



Actually the ad hominem was the suggestion that I was attacking someone on the basis of their mental health, and the implication that follows. And yes, one can "ad hom" by implication.



You want me to provide a link to a study that proves young boys aren't all schizophrenic?



It certainly makes sense to assume that they'll come into contact with it at some point. It really comes down to what kind of relationship you've fostered with your child, and whether you manage to pre-empt their first encounter or not. What age are kids coming into contact with porn these days anyway?

Your response is ambiguous. I'm not sure I understand it.


Perhaps your comment was meant as a personal attack rather than an attack on the argument. I suppose it could be taken either way.


You made a claim. That young people can tell between fantasy and reality. By which I infer you mean the realities of sexual relations between men and women. I'm not sure I agree with you when you use these terms to describe the problem. But since you did, I will use them. Pornography blends fantasy with reality because when you see something, even on screen, it becomes part of your mental repertoire of knowledge. How can you become unaware of it when you enter into your own relationship? It can't not affect you.