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28 Jul 2016, 7:29 pm

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So far Obama and Penetta have both said that Hillary is the most qualified person to ever run for president. Guess she is more qualified than George Washington, Jefferson, or Madison. The last 2 only wrote the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution. Hillary, lets see, oh yeah, she was married to a former president.

All three of the guys you mentioned also owned slaves.

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28 Jul 2016, 7:32 pm

"In case you were wondering, a weekend is less than 12 days."

What is this? Is this a put down? This is exactly the reason I left before. I'm tired of being talked down to. Nothing will ever change here.

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28 Jul 2016, 7:33 pm

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It's a statement and a fact. I find it hard to believe that you truly think a film that grossed five million dollars in 12 days would have any chance of grossing 120 million.

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28 Jul 2016, 9:50 pm

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Why exactly do you trust this filmmaker? He's a convicted felon who made illegal campaign contributions under fraudulent names.

The same question could be asked about why anyone would support Hillary - who should be a convicted felon - along with the DOJ and Obama for "Fast and Furious" . I don't think anything that D'Souza has done (or Trump) can compare.

What proofs there is that Obama was involved in Fast and Furious? It's not like Fox News is a credible source...

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28 Jul 2016, 9:57 pm

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The left is bored with democracy. Just look at the violent anti-Trump protests and the college campuses. "The ends justify the means." The choice isn't about Republican or democrat. The choice is between democracy or Hillary.

The psychology we should be exploring is why the media pundits are ignoring the biggest historical event of the year, by far.

That is, for the first time since the founding of America, a person who is being investigated by the federal government which is run by the person's own party is running for President of the United States. A person could be elected President who may also be a felon due to national security violations.

These facts make the Trump candidacy small potatoes by comparison.

And what does this say about the current state of American culture?

That we, the people, are no longer capable of running our own country. The U.K> might was well come in and take us back as a colony.

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29 Jul 2016, 12:42 am

alex wrote:

nurseangela wrote:

AMERICA'S TOP GROSSING FILM OF 2016 AND IT HAS ONLY BEEN SHOWING FOR 12 DAYS!! ! ! ! ! ! !

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... -2016.html

Let the truth be known.

Angela, you keep lying about things. It's ridiculous. How could a film that grossed only 5 million be the highest grossing film of 2016? Captain America: Civil war grossed over 400 million.

Oh, thank God! I was afraid for a moment that my fellow Americans had actually gone off the deep end. Five million is small potatoes in the modern film industry.

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29 Jul 2016, 1:43 am

The ghist of the film seems to be: Before the 1994 "Republican Revolution" White Southern racists usually registered as Democrats, and now White Southern racists usually register as Republicans - a fact which most adults over 30 already know (whether they happened to be White, Southern, racist, or not).

Why are we supposed to want to see a "documentary" that only tells us one little inane fact that we already know?

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29 Jul 2016, 1:53 am

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All three of the guys you mentioned also owned slaves.

They were products of their time, what's your point?

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29 Jul 2016, 9:43 am

Meistersinger wrote:

That we, the people, are no longer capable of running our own country. The U.K> might was well come in and take us back as a colony.

Have you seen the state of this country over the last month?

I would suggest France, but they're considering electing a National Front candidate!

Canada seem to have it together. Ask them for help.

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29 Jul 2016, 10:00 am

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alex wrote:

All three of the guys you mentioned also owned slaves.

They were products of their time, what's your point?

I guess his point is that they aren't nearly as qualified as Mrs. Bill Clinton to be president.

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29 Jul 2016, 11:17 am

ProfessorJohn wrote:

Dox47 wrote:

alex wrote:

All three of the guys you mentioned also owned slaves.

They were products of their time, what's your point?

I guess his point is that they aren't nearly as qualified as Mrs. Bill Clinton to be president.

Just stating a fact, not making a point.

And obviously Hillary Clinton is not the best candidate for president we've ever had in the history of the US but she is qualified. She was a senator and was secretary of state. She certainly has more credentials than her opponent.

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29 Jul 2016, 11:35 am

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And obviously Hillary Clinton is not the best candidate for president we've ever had in the history of the US but she is qualified. She was a senator and was secretary of state. She certainly has more credentials than her opponent.

But how many of those things did she achieve on her own? Would she have gone from never holding any political office to being a Senator of the 3rd most populated state, when she didn't even live in that state, if she hadn't been married to Bill Clinton? Most likely not. In other words, every office she has held came by riding her husband's coat tails, and not by any virtue of her own.

Trump earned things on his own, definitely not by who he was married to. He had run several businesses and amassed a fortune on his own.

So, it depends on what credentials you value. He definitely knows more about how the economy runs because he as operated within it and been successful. Hillary did have a private career as a lawyer, which may or may not have earned some experience in the private sector, but most of her career has been in the politics, where she hasn't had the experience to gain much real world knowledge on how the economy really works, especially since most politicians exempt themselves from the laws and regulations they impose on the rest of us.

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29 Jul 2016, 11:46 am

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Trump earned things on his own, definitely not by who he was married to. He had run several businesses and amassed a fortune on his own.

No, he didn't. Trump inherited money from his father. If he had simply invested his money in the stock market in an index fund instead of running businesses, he'd actually be worth more money today. So the idea that he grew his wealth through his own actions is laughable.

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29 Jul 2016, 12:15 pm

alex wrote:

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alex wrote:

Trump earned things on his own, definitely not by who he was married to. He had run several businesses and amassed a fortune on his own.

Yes, he did take over his father's company, but was able to manage it successfully into multiple real estate ventures. Lot's of people inherit companies and run them into the ground, he didn't. He at least has had a successful career as a businessman. When Hillary ran for the senate in 2000, did she promote all of the credentials and accomplishments she had at the Rose Law Firm in Arkansas as the evidence that she should be in the senate?

My biggest problem with all of this is that the President and Panette both say she is the most qualified person ever to run for president. You seem to even acknowledge that she probably isn't. The press doesn't. Obama and Panette get a complete pass on a completely outrageous, factually incorrect statement (although I guess qualified is a somewhat subjective characteristic), and it gets played by the press for the benefit of the voters, many of whom are probably not smart enough historically to even question it before going to the voting both. Just imagine what would have happened it someone at the RNC made that statement about Trump. The press would have gone ballistic. They would have immediately points out how wrong it was and would probably still be discussing it today. It is said about Mrs. Bill Clinton-nothing, not a challenge at all. Like they all completely agree with it.

I don't know who the most qualified person to have ever run for president is, but I am pretty certain it isn't Mrs. Bill Clinton.

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29 Jul 2016, 12:19 pm

We're having national municipal elections next week, and fortunately neither Hillary nor Trump are anywhere near us!

Actually we have a mixed ward councillor and Proportional Representative system, which enables smaller parties to get a say in council, and have a chance at getting in coalition with one of the larger ones - quit a good system.

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29 Jul 2016, 12:31 pm

ProfessorJohn wrote:

alex wrote:

ProfessorJohn wrote:

alex wrote:

Trump earned things on his own, definitely not by who he was married to. He had run several businesses and amassed a fortune on his own.

Yes, he did take over his father's company, but was able to manage it successfully into multiple real estate ventures. ...

Which of these account for the four bankruptcies that Mr. Trump declared?

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