Is the word "man" sexist or are feminists making things up?

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15 Jul 2016, 4:01 pm

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As a woman, this has puzzled me more than it has actually pissed me off.

On one side, I can understand why some feminists argue that using the word "man" to refer to humanity being sexist, as it suggests the over-gloryfication of the male gender...

...But on the other hand, "man" is used to refer to both sexes and is a short word to refer to humanity. (at least that's what I found out when I googled "man definition")

To be honest I am terribly confused by this petty conflict between feminists and what they call "sexist". :shrug:

Just what is it that is both right and wrong about feminists? :roll:


All words and their definitions are purely arbitrary.

The debate easily devolves into semantic distraction.

The real issue is and always will be....POWER. :!:

Males, in general, have more of it and intend to keep it that way.

Females see this obvious inequity and want more power than they have....having power is great....feeling powerless sucks sh*t......and so the fight is on.


Are you seriously suggesting that gender equality is impossible? :roll:


Hell, No! :D

Gender equality IS possible, of course.

BUT, for GE to happen Males would have to choose to have much LESS power than they presently have.

Males 'can' choose this, BUT do you think they ever will?!?!?



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15 Jul 2016, 6:20 pm

I deliberately choose to be henceforth considered a "wereman"


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16 Jul 2016, 2:56 am

Woman's Libber here, and no it's not sexist. I call myself a woman's libber instead of a feminist to distance myself from the fainting couch feminism of the third wave that portrays us all as victims whose delicate sensibilities can't handle certain words and we will have hysteria and the vapors if we are forced to hear them with our fragile ears.

Man is used to mean general human beings when you aren't specifying either sex. To specify the sex you say male for man and the obvious women or female for women. In writing when referring to a general person of unknown or either sex you use he and him and his. You can use they but it's not always grammatically correct. Some use he or she or he/she or s/he but it's easier to just use he and expect people to use common sense. When writing about general childbirth and baby care you always refer to the baby as he for simplicity because she always refers to the mother. Some get upset over this too because common sense is also sexist to fainting couch feminists.


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16 Jul 2016, 3:53 am

OliveOilMom wrote:
Woman's Libber here, and no it's not sexist. I call myself a woman's libber instead of a feminist to distance myself from the fainting couch feminism of the third wave that portrays us all as victims whose delicate sensibilities can't handle certain words and we will have hysteria and the vapors if we are forced to hear them with our fragile ears.


You express a lot of contempt for anything you perceive as weakness. I find that really interesting. Do you have any personal weaknesses, I wonder? And if so, why are the kind of weaknesses you possess alright but others are worthy of contempt? Or do you hold yourself in contempt as well when you show any of your weaknesses? I've known a few people who share that characteristic (despising weakness) and it always fascinates me.


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16 Jul 2016, 6:50 pm

All power comes from within, which is why so many power-hungry people are looking in the wrong place when they try to find power externally. There is no such thing as weakness, since everyone is beautiful and always as strong and powerful as they need to be. :heart: Blessed be.


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16 Jul 2016, 7:07 pm

I think using "man" or "mankind" to refer to all people is sexist. Who does that anymore, though? Even back in the eighties, Star Trek TNG changed one of its opening lines from "to boldly go where no MAN has gone before" to the more inclusive "where no ONE has gone before". I think it's a non-issue because only very old people still speak or write that way.



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18 Jul 2016, 2:53 am

wilburforce wrote:
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Woman's Libber here, and no it's not sexist. I call myself a woman's libber instead of a feminist to distance myself from the fainting couch feminism of the third wave that portrays us all as victims whose delicate sensibilities can't handle certain words and we will have hysteria and the vapors if we are forced to hear them with our fragile ears.


You express a lot of contempt for anything you perceive as weakness. I find that really interesting. Do you have any personal weaknesses, I wonder? And if so, why are the kind of weaknesses you possess alright but others are worthy of contempt? Or do you hold yourself in contempt as well when you show any of your weaknesses? I've known a few people who share that characteristic (despising weakness) and it always fascinates me.



I don't hold weakness in contempt, but I'm not surprised you interpret things that way. I see weakness as something that you have to deal with work around and in some cases try and fix. Not out of contempt but out of common sense. Weakness in general isn't conducive to survival or doing well. That is simple common sense. It's impossible to get rid of all weakness and you just have to work with and around it and adjust your perspective instead of worshipping it and insisting that it never be changed and that everyone adjust behavior and expectations to the lowest common denominator.

And yes I know, y'all don't like common sense either. Don't worry, your dislike of my opinions nor of me offends me at all. It's like clouds, something that is just there.


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