Is BLM really talking about black-on-black crime?

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It's more than just cops KILLING blacks.

It's subjecting them to investigations on the street, in front of a crowd, thereby embarrassing them.

Lots of times, these "investigations" occur when they just get off work. Many times, these people being "investigated" are working for a living, and to raise kids. They have no time to be committing crimes. They only fit some sort of "profile."

I've been subjected to a few of these myself--and I'm white. They usually only occur in "black" neighborhoods. I was in a "black" neighborhoods the few times I was subjected to this.

It's embarrassing to be "investigated" in front of a crowd of people; this crowd probably doesn't give you the benefit of the doubt--and assumes that you're a criminal.

I am one, like I've said many times, who has no objection to police. However, there are times when the police must be policed. There are times when the bad apples must be expelled from the tree.

So what you are saying is, it's fine that they feel afraid of a massive crime problem, but not if they feel afraid of the police, because the police are supposed to be protectors, while criminals in the black community are supposed to be criminals. Yes, I get it. That still makes no sense. Do you see why I think that seems racist? There SHOULD NOT be this massive crime problem, even if it's in the black community. You seem to be implying that the extreme crime rates are to be expected from the black community, and so you are coming to their defense. Why are you defending them? Why are you minimizing the actions of criminals?

But even so, should or should not is subjective. If you take the objective view, you realize that much more harm is being done to the black community as a whole because of problems that exist largely within the community. No, I'm not trying to blame or invalidate anyone, I'm saying that these people should be taking responsibility for the welfare of their own community instead of pointing the finger at white police.

Imagine you lived in a ghetto as a single black mom with a son. Would you be more afraid of your son getting shot by police walking out of a Starbucks, or more afraid of him getting shot in the crossfire of a drive-by, or becoming involved in a gang or other criminal activities? I've never lived in such a community myself, but according to people I've talked to that have and according to statistics, it seems that one of those fears is a lot more rational than the other.

And yet you're saying that the police take priority, simply because as a matter of principle you should NEVER have to fear a police officer. That's subjective crap. The focus should be on the bigger threat, and the fact is that black-on-black crime is an immensely bigger problem than unjustified police violence. Yes, that's still a problem, but the world can't be perfect, and sometimes you have to prioritize your focus.

And what about all the blacks who kill blacks? They are often innocent black people who were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time; they are not always other criminals. And even many of the criminals who get killed were in some way driven to commit those crimes out of necessity. But those people are dead. More of them will die today. Many more than will be killed unjustifiably by the police, I'm sure.

I understand the sentiment that a higher standard is expected from police, but that does not justify the level of focused attention that is being given to racist white police, who make up a tiny fraction of a percentage of the police organization. It is completely unacceptable. Even if BLM got everything they're asking for, much of the black community would still be in the same sh***y situation it's in now, if not worse. Many more black people are dying because they were shot in self-defense by police or were killed by other black people. There are relatively very few cases of unjustified shootings by police. So if the police get defunded like BLM wants, do you think black crime will increase or decrease? Do you think police will feel more or less safe in black neighborhoods?

BLM is going to f**k things up royally if people keep letting them have their way.

(Sigh) No, that's not I'm saying, but I think you know that. Black Americans have every reason to be afraid of crime, but they're also afraid of the police, and they shouldn't have to be afraid of the latter.

I never said blacks should just accept black crime, but I think you know that. I think you're being purposely obstinate.

YOU are being obstinate. In the face of the facts that I have presented, which prove that crime is an immensely bigger problem for the black community than unjustified police violence, you continue to insist that focusing on police racism makes sense. It doesn't. I'm not saying forget about it or don't talk about it ever, but police brutality is a problem across the board, not just for black people. What is limited to black people, however, is a ridiculous level of crime.

Homicide is the leading cause of death for young black men. I have yet to see BLM even mention this. How can a group that claims to be out to save black lives be blatantly ignoring such a shocking fact about the loss of black lives? It's f*****g despicable.

No one is saying black on black violence should be ignored, but Black Lives Matter was formed specifically because cops have shot unarmed black Americans, and for that reason alone. Who knows, maybe someone will start an organization dedicated to fighting street crime in inner cities, but that will be their specialty, and not protesting cop on black violence.

Then maybe they should change their dumb hashtag to #blacklivesmatterifwhitecopskilledthem. At least that would be accurate.

Who knows, maybe someone will start an organization dedicated to fighting street crime in inner cities, but that will be their specialty, and not protesting cop on black violence.

No one is saying black on black violence should be ignored, but Black Lives Matter was formed specifically because cops have shot unarmed black Americans, and for that reason alone. Who knows, maybe someone will start an organization dedicated to fighting street crime in inner cities, but that will be their specialty, and not protesting cop on black violence.

Who knows, maybe someone will start an organization dedicated to fighting street crime in inner cities, but that will be their specialty, and not protesting cop on black violence.

Gee, sorry they're complaining that cops are killing people for no good reason...must be a major bummer in YOUR day, huh?