If Hillary is elected, will something really bad happen?

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Well, according to a recent analysis by the RAND corporation, 19.7 million people will lose their health insurance if Hillary is elected...


Source: http://www.rand.org/blog/2016/09/estima ... ealth.html

I think that qualifies as "Really Bad" by quite a few standards...

... Oh, wait... that's if *Trump* is elected...sorry...

No it wouldn't and why should I give two hoots about the Baltics? Why should that be the sparkpoint of WWII? Why are they worth more than Russia? It doesn't make a lot of sense, these other countries have treaty obligations they are not living up to which voids any agreement we have in my opinion not to mention it is our sovereign right to pull out of any treaty we want and there are more that we should. We already are at the beck and call of foreign leaders, what do you think our relationship with Israel and Saudi Arabia is like?

ISIS will be around until they are destroyed and then whatever even more messed up group will take their place, Islamic extremism is most definitely a threat to the security of the United States and Europe which shows no signs of being mitigated in the future. One way to avoid this imminent danger is to not let in hundreds of thousands to millions of "refugees" from the most hostile backward places on the planet but you'd rather sacrifice security for a nice warm feeling in your tum tum.

As for the identity groups, you've bought in and feel you must make amends for your original sin but I have no interest in making amends for something I have no part of because of the color of my skin. We're living in this bizarro world were the idea of a colorblind society were we are all equal is thought of as racist, these people want inherent "privileges" and to punish those whose ancestors they believe did them wrong. This is based on nothing other than skin color never mind the fact the hundreds of thousands of white Americans that died to free them or the millions and millions of our ancestors who hadn't crossed the ocean yet but we're all suppose to share in this collectivized guilt of slavery? I'll pass, as someone that knows history and particularly early American history particularly when it slavery, as I can tell you a lot of this was simply invented to keep us divided race as opposed to class which has always scared the aristocracy in this country from the very beginning. Some people are way too invested in race to give it up, ironically the people most invested in the concept of a racial divide are the so called 'anti-racists' or whatever else this deluded corner of the left identify themselves as.

She is not that different from Obama, probably to the right of him. Obama did not destroy the world; standards of living increased for many.

Some media try to make people afraid, and we all mostly read media sources we agree with. Unfortunately some right-wing media have also been encouraging people to disbelieve much of the scientific community, perhaps for short-term personal financial gain.

However people won't change their minds from reading a few things we write here!

I don't feel any sort of white guilt. But I also know that simply declaring all people equal and worthy of respect means nothing without action behind it. Conservatives who talk about a color blind society are disingenuous because a black person will always be black, an Asian person will always be Asian, a white person will always be white, and expressing true respect for all is acknowledging that fact, rather than simply pretending it's somehow not noticeable. Besides, when conservatives talk about a color blind society, what they really want is for everyone else to have amnesia about the past, and just put up and shut up, thereby putting the burden of past racism on it's victims.
I totally agree, the social and economic elites have used race as a means to divide and conquer poor people.
As for the Baltic states - it helps if you put yourself in their place, where they've faced a history of Soviet domination where they were collectively held responsible for their countrymen who had once collaborated with the Nazis. Many of their young men did not survive military service at the hands of fellow Soviet soldiers. That, and how Russians were purposely resettled in the Baltic region, threatening Baltic culture and language. Not something I'd look forward to again.

As I recall, Obama's nominee was a Republican.

You say you don't feel any sort of white guilt then go on to say you do, you might not identify with the negative connotation that goes along with the term 'white guilt' but you most definitely do feel it. You are a believer of original sin and collectivized guilt, it's the same logic that racist use but only you see yourself as one of the "good whites" who opposes to oh so evil raysis working class and heaven forbid not college educated whites that you boogeyman when the reality has always been that it being the elitists that developed and maintained the policies of systemic/institutional racism. I choose not to take this guilt upon myself because I had nothing to do with it, I do not care if an ancestor of mine did as that is not me and I have no responsibility for their actions which happened well before I was ever born. This weaponized shaming and anti-white racism(this is ultimately where these deluded SJW worldviews lead to) needs to stop before there is a backlash, there already might be so maybe too late.

Anti gun republican aka a rhino. Both him and Hilary want total gun bans as the end game. It's s long term plan that won't be done with just on president. Step by step little by little until there's no right to own guns or freedoms

Only according to the leadership of the NRA.

I never said anything about feeling white guilt, nor do I feel any. Just the same, wrongs in the past that can be corrected must be corrected. It has nothing to do with guilt, but rather with doing the right thing.
And as a matter of fact, I grew up in a working class household. My dad was a college drop out, while my mom got no higher education at all. But they taught me from an early age that all people are equal, despite superficial physical differences, and that racism was wrong. So, no, I don't smear working class people as racist, as I know that's a stereotype.

QFT----EXCELLENT post!!

More of the same and no help for the Middle Class. Think of a Hillary win as Bill's Third Term...

You know how people are trying to bring up the control of nuclear weapons as an argument against Trump

but Hillary, again in her campaign against Obama, would not rule out using nuclear weapons in Afghanistan and Pakistan back in 2007.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02288.html[/url]

It really is like she projects every criticism of her on her opponent, she's been on the opposite side of everything

Something bad will probably happen regardless of who is elected...

Or anyone who actually knows anything about guns and gun laws, i.e. not you.

I think I am reasonably knowledgeable about the charge of how the "evil, evil commie Democrats" are going to take away everyone's guns is nothing more than paranoia spread by the likes of the NRA and the GOA. What does knowledge of guns, or even existing gun laws, have to do with the price of tea in China in this instance?

Yes, you can repeat moronic talking points with the best of them, I'll give you that.



It means knowing what is and is not effective law wise, knowing the history of who proposed what law and why, and knowing the results of what laws are being championed. Hillary has said point blank that she thinks Heller, the SCOTUS case recognizing an individual right to own firearms, was wrongly decided, and that she'd choose her nominees accordingly. More worryingly to me, she made repealing the PLCIAA a major part of her campaign in coming at Bernie Sanders from the left, and the only reason you'd go after that law is if you wanted to back door bankrupt the domestic firearms manufacturers through frivolous and expensive litigation, just like the first Clinton administration tried to. Then, of course, we've got the one thing Hillary and Trump agreed on, denying people their 2nd amendment rights through a secret and unaccountable government list, the various "assault weapons" bans being batted around at various times that even the man who invented them admits are a smokescreen for a later, larger ban, Hillary's support for Australian style gun control, i.e. confiscation, etc.

Like I said, if you actually knew what you were talking about, none of this would be news to you. In fact, none of this should be news to you, as I've said it to you before, but since it conflicts with your partisan ideology, it just rolls off.