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Which is less than the burden they'd be if they were unemployed completely. The purpose of business is not to provide for the people who work there (I made a whole thread about that if you care to comment), it's to provide a service or product to consumers in a mutually beneficial arrangement that hopefully makes a profit. My shop (I don't actually own it, just to be clear, I use the possessive because I run the kitchen and think of it as mine) is already struggling with a high minimum wage, and as a result we have to hire less people, be pickier about who we hire to make sure we get our money's worth, keep on top of people to avoid wasting time, and pay our skilled employees less because we have to pay so much for our unskilled ones. If my skilled labor is underpaid, and as part of that skilled labor, I'd say we are, it's in large part because our unskilled labor is overpaid; a teenager washing dishes doesn't need to support a family, and there's no reason on earth to force a business to pay as if he were.

Supporting the lower income earners is a burden best taken up by society, not by making it prohibitively expensive to employ low skill labor. Raise the top marginal rates or cut some bureaucracy to pay for it, but this is absolutely not the responsibility of small business.



You're paying a higher price because the ingredients are expensive and a lot of (expensive) labor goes into it; if fuel is all you're looking for, MacDonald's is down the street.



I think I deserve to earn a living from running a business, considering the level of effort and personal risk involved.



My shop would have gone out of business years ago if the owner were not both wealthy and stubborn, but thanks to him being willing to throw money down the pit, Seattleites have access to high quality meats and sandwiches that they otherwise wouldn't.

0.o hamburger isn't expensive and potatoes are super cheap. Five guys uses fresh and quality and they charge $5 for hamburger and $3 for s**t ton of fries. Which is already kinda expensive, I can get hamburger for $6 a pound and make 4 burgers and bag of potatoes for $3 for ten pounds, quite like my home mad fries better.

I can see how other dishes would bring the cost up. Steak dinner cost about $17 here and I'm fine paying ther though I can't afford it often.

I have to disagree with you on this dox. I work min wage. Most min wage people aren't teenagers.

As for restaurants. I've seen some sh***y food quality being charge premium price. With some,time bugs or rates crawling around, I've also eaten at pricy places and the food sucks. What's their excuse? They use frozen stuff from companies and still charge high.

Food industry sucks. Food expires if not used, hundreds of dollars thrown away. Kills me. If I opened a business it'd be guns or a shave shop.

I feel my Ambien coming on, so I'm not in the proper frame of mind to post to my usual standard (or am I?), so I thought I'd drop this nifty little placeholder for when I wake up tomorrow:

That's my $11 burger, named the best in Seattle by Zagat: 1/3 Painted Hills 80/20 ground chuck cooked medium rare, buttered and toasted Macrina Bakery brioche roll, house made caramelized onions, house made pickles, house made smoked tomato aioli, fresh tomato, fresh mescaline greens, sliced red onion, and a choice of cheddar, provolone, Swiss, or bleu cheeses.

$11 starting to seem a bit more reasonable?

It to me but I'm a bun, hamburger, ketchup guy. I don't want pay for all the extra handmade stuff. I suppose for foodies? That it's a good price. I watch cooking shows and good eats and stuff, I don't get 95% of the food and would never eat it. I'm a simple eater.

$6 is most ill spend on a hamburger and it's about as much as most places charge around my area at restaurants. Unless you start doing double burger and special toppings.

If I eat out it's usually burger king for $3

Or five guys or the expensive steakhouse($17 for 9oz steak lots of fries and all I can eat yeast rolls )

I'm really starting to hate the way we talk about capitalism in our society.

If you talk about the horrors of capitalism to right-wing small business owners, they always feel threatened. "Socialism doesn't take from the rich and give to the needy. It takes from the poor and gives to the rich and the flat broke."

Attention Small Business Owners: That isn't socialism. That's modified capitalism. The crap that comes out of the Democratic Party isn't real socialism. The Democrats are frauds. Only grassroots action can solve this problem.

I'm not attacking small business owners when I attack Lockheed Martin and their warmongering. When are we going to end these corporate subsidies? When will we end this war lobbying? When will we stop going in circles?

... and then we have the people who think that socialism inevitably leads to Islamofascism, matriarchy, white slavery or whatever Paul Joseph Watson has been spewing lately.

This is the song that never ends.
Yes it goes on and on my friend.
Some people started singing it not knowing what it was.
And they'll just keep on singing it forever just because...

Maybe parents and consumers will have the right to toss out a recipe full of evil sources when M.Ps strip Green of his knighthood sometime, including Ainsley Harriot and Mary Berry bake-off with Ramsey kitchen bloopers suspended.
Some people also believe the government is evil, but all manners of pay will rise next year, along with inflation.. unfortunately.

Anything Rupert Murdoch owns or touches. More specifically News Corp, News Limited, News International and Dow Jones & Company, etc.). Mainly for the likes of Fox News in the USA, The Sun, Sky News, The Times, etc. I nominate them for fear mongering, bias, propaganda, inciting hatred, and manipulating public opinion to serve false agendas. I personally feel they played a huge role in the support for Trump and Brexit.

So it's horribly wrong for me to go to McDonald's, shop at Walmart or watch Disney but it's perfectly fine and okay to get stinking drunk or destroy my lungs with tobacco? I really am on the wrong planet.

I really hate it and I want to get off. I don't belong here. I don't belong anywhere. I really want to die now.

I don't think anyone is saying that.

Some people have told me "McDonald's is the only food I can afford."
This means that we should blame the company and not the customers.

How exactly? If McDonald's is the only food they can afford, and you remove McDonald's, they won't be able to afford any food.

It's not a breaking point. It's broken. People made this entity. Everyone is involved and accepts it for what it is. It is insanity.

The most evil corporations are the ones who turned food from something nurishing into something addicting. They're the new drug dealers and they're pushing their product on both children and adults. McDonald's is bad but the corporations that make candy and sweets are even worse. Sugar should be banned as a toxic substance and as an addictive substance.

That's actually a really interesting point. In spite of what I said before radical actions, even if they are well intentioned, may easily have unforseen consequences.

Ban unhealthy food and the poor can't eat. They weren't getting many vitamins from McDonald's but at least they had a cheap source of calories to live on (but instead they should go to Burger King, the Whopper has more salad, therefore more vitamins).

I think the fundemental difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals want to reshape the world according to their best intentions and conservatives want to maintain the status quo and so avoid unintended consequences.

We need both. Liberals see the bad in society and see how it might be improved. Conservatives see the good in society and see how it might be preserved.

Ban McDonald's and millions will lose their jobs. I've even heard people speak highly of McDonald's as being a very suitible first job for a teenager.

The trouble is, if millions depend on McDonald's for employment that makes them "too big to fail" and "too big to fail" should not be used as an excuse for all the harm they do.

I think Walmart tops the list. To pay your employees so little that they rely on food stamps is a pretty cheap thing to do.

Is walmart the problem, or the people who work and shop there? Amazing deals on toilet paper! 55% of your taxes are spent on the military. A little welfare money in exchange for a good deal on toilet paper is a small price to pay. I would rather give it to someone who works at walmart if i had a choice. Militant behavior makes me want to puke.

You left out free MSG, caffeine, pesticides in fresh uncooked products, chemically altered substances, nano particles, flavor enhancers, canola, safflower, "and or" whatever other oil, whatever that is supposed to mean? and neurotoxins.

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