Is Trump really as evil as the left makes him out to be?

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22 Dec 2016, 1:52 pm

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I think people are terrified he will actually be a good president who will get a lot done...


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Omg, I'm totally undone by that completely original meme I have never seen before! :oops: My laughter has been destroyed by groupthink--I mean, by solid reasoning.

P.S.--Racism and other forms of bigotry aren't just "other views"--but I know you need to see it that way to keep up your false equivalences and your partisan BS. Whatevs. :)


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Oh and for you information, even though I don't like them, racism and many other forms of bigotry ARE other views; because they are the result of people's perception of other people regarding their race and other characteristics.

Judging from the fact that you seem to consider racism and bigotry as something other than other points of views, it seems pretty clear to me that you seem to believe that evil things such as racism aren't supposed to exists; that they are an anomaly in the very fabric of reality.

Well let me tell you, it's not! Bad things like racism can and will always exists no matter how good the world around you is. However that doesn't mean that we can't turn racism and bigotry into rare instances. But doing so will require time, patience, and, what you appear to lack the most, an open mind.


:P I wouldn't want to disappoint your preconceptions about "liberals", so I won't argue with you.


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22 Dec 2016, 6:28 pm

I simply think he will be a bad leader. Mainly based on his actions, his populist stance, and inability to deliver on promises. He will be judged on the wall, which I think won't be the success he has sold it as.

Tbh Hilary wouldn't have been a good choice for president, nor Bernie. The choice was abysmal tbh. Herein lies the problem. The only reason why you had someone like Trump running, is candidacy is so out of reach for ordinary folk.

I think there is some merit to the idea that the left have overplayed the "New Hitler" idea. It is an own goal on their part, and gives the impression they have no real historical perspective.

Trump hasn't done or said anything policy wise that hasn't already been said politicians from either parties.

He is no less Hawkish than Hilary just he is being Contrarian about it.

He may be a one term President.



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26 Dec 2016, 1:16 pm

Based on observation, there appears to be a great deal of over exaggeration regarding how evil and dangerous Trump supposedly is. A good example of that in my opinion are statements I've seen saying Trump is the worst president we've ever had and petitions for him to be impeached, when he's not even the president yet.



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26 Dec 2016, 2:47 pm

EzraS wrote:
Based on observation, there appears to be a great deal of over exaggeration regarding how evil and dangerous Trump supposedly is. A good example of that in my opinion are statements I've seen saying Trump is the worst president we've ever had and petitions for him to be impeached, when he's not even the president yet.


Not to mention the left wing is, unintentionally or otherwise, going against both democracy and free speech. In other words, it is VERY disrespectful for people to even suggest that there should be a re-do of the elections when in reality, like it or not, Trump was democratically elected by the American people!

And I think it's unfair for people to try and dethrone a president that was chosen by the public and not some rich and powerful @$$holes!*

*I'm pretty sure they vote for the president too. Although what I mean is that I'd rather have a voting system where both the general public AND the aforementioned @$$holes get to choose who's president rather than leaving the choice for said a-holes.

Think the electoral college vote system is crap? Well I think this professionally made video highly disagrees:


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26 Dec 2016, 5:32 pm

People whine about the popular vote and say that the electoral college is not democratic but what they fail to understand is that the most fundamental aspect of democracy is the rule of law not mob rule and without it you have tyranny. Donald Trump is the democratically and constitutionally elected 45th president of the United States, people need to accept this like it or not because the result is not changing. You can work to promote a new system to replace the electoral college so things will be different in the future, I wouldn't recommend it since I think you're energies probably are better spent doing something else.



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26 Dec 2016, 6:15 pm

People confuse what "liberal" means. A true liberal certainly wouldn't be acting like "liberals" now who tried so hard to overturn a democratic vote. The same people that cried about the system not being fair didn't say a word before the election and wouldn't have if Clinton won. Nor would they have moaned about her corruption.

The funniest thing is to hear people repeat the hilarious word of "populist" that is churned out by criminals like Tony Blair who said we went to war in Iraq for democracy but when real democracy happens in his own country he will call it some kind of radical "populism". Probably best to just laugh at the hypocrisy and irony.


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26 Dec 2016, 10:16 pm

Before the election, the idea of someone questioning the the integrity of elections and the will of the people, was a bad thing. It was touted as a matter of great concern when Trump refused to say if he'd accept the election results. It's blatantly obvious they were in complete support of the election process before they lost.

The instant karma video that will forever haunt Obama:



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27 Dec 2016, 8:12 am

Jacoby wrote:
I think people are terrified he will actually be a good president who will get a lot done, bleeding heart crybabies may never get over such an embarrassing loss which will just make things even worse for them going forward as they refuse to make the necessary changes. 2016 is to 1980 as 2020 will be to 1984, Democrats really have nobody to run that can win that they'll actually nominate. The backroom deals at the DNC are being worked out right now for who is next in line. They hate him because they fear him, he will invalidate their entire worldviews and these people who see everything in such black and white terms cannot accept that.


I wholeheartedly hope he turns out to be a great president. I just don't believe he will.



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27 Dec 2016, 10:06 am

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I think people are terrified he will actually be a good president who will get a lot done, bleeding heart crybabies may never get over such an embarrassing loss which will just make things even worse for them going forward as they refuse to make the necessary changes. 2016 is to 1980 as 2020 will be to 1984, Democrats really have nobody to run that can win that they'll actually nominate. The backroom deals at the DNC are being worked out right now for who is next in line. They hate him because they fear him, he will invalidate their entire worldviews and these people who see everything in such black and white terms cannot accept that.


I wholeheartedly hope he turns out to be a great president. I just don't believe he will.


Which is fine because what has Trump done except defy everybody's expectations? There are people actively working against him and this country unfortunately but luckily now we finally have the strong leadership needed to confront these insidious corrupting forces. The truth is we don't really have no idea the extent of this problem, I think we will get an idea with how congress works with Trump.



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27 Dec 2016, 11:27 am

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People whine about the popular vote and say that the electoral college is not democratic but what they fail to understand is that the most fundamental aspect of democracy is the rule of law not mob rule and without it you have tyranny. Donald Trump is the democratically and constitutionally elected 45th president of the United States, people need to accept this like it or not because the result is not changing. You can work to promote a new system to replace the electoral college so things will be different in the future, I wouldn't recommend it since I think you're energies probably are better spent doing something else.


And here is some evidence of the aforementioned "whining" of the popular vote system that is NOT from my favorite, Paul Joseph Watson:



Speaking of which, Paul made a similar video with a very similar conclusion. Is this just a meaningless coincidence? I think not. :roll:


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27 Dec 2016, 8:38 pm

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That's quite a psychological projection. Conservatives are the ones who are the most allergic to facts.


There is so many proofs of the theory of evolution that it's beyond any reasonable doubts, yet conservatives refuse to believe that.

There is lot of proofs of the Earth been billions of years old, yet conservatives refuse to believe that.

There is a lot of proofs supporting the Big Bang theory, yet conservatives refuse to believe that.

Rehabilitation of criminals is shown to be working, yet conservatives refuse that.

There is a lot of proofs that the Earth is warming and humans are responsible, yet conservatives refuse to believe that.

Birth control by teaching abstinence is obviously worthless, yet conservatives refuse to believe that.

That the confederate states rebelled against the north to keep slavery is outright stated in confederates documents, yet conservatives refuse to believe that and build false stories on been about states rights.

Trickle down economy has brought catastrophic results after the numerous decades it have been tried, yet conservatives refuse to believe that.

It's quite obvious that US founding fathers intended their country to be made of secular states, yet conservatives refuse to believe that.


And there is many other things I didn't yet thought off. The average conservatives think they know more that experts having studied their fields for years only because they prefer their flawed "common sense" over years of research, but overall they are a bunch anti-intellectual ignorants.


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27 Dec 2016, 9:13 pm

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That's quite a psychological projection. Conservatives are the ones who are the most allergic to facts.


There is so many proofs of the theory of evolution that it's beyond any reasonable doubts, yet conservatives refuse to believe that.

There is lot of proofs of the Earth been billions of years old, yet conservatives refuse to believe that.

There is a lot of proofs supporting the Big Bang theory, yet conservatives refuse to believe that.

Rehabilitation of criminals is shown to be working, yet conservatives refuse that.

There is a lot of proofs that the Earth is warming and humans are responsible, yet conservatives refuse to believe that.

Birth control by teaching abstinence is obviously worthless, yet conservatives refuse to believe that.

That the confederate states rebelled against the north to keep slavery is outright stated in confederates documents, yet conservatives refuse to believe that and build false stories on been about states rights.

Trickle down economy has brought catastrophic results after the numerous decades it have been tried, yet conservatives refuse to believe that.

It's quite obvious that US founding fathers intended their country to be made of secular states, yet conservatives refuse to believe that.


And there is many other things I didn't yet thought off. The average conservatives think they know more that experts having studied their fields for years only because they prefer their flawed "common sense" over years of research, but overall they are a bunch anti-intellectual ignorants.


I, by no means, am trying to prove that conservatives are great and superior to liberals or that they are any better.

What I am simply trying to get across is that, surprisingly, some "liberals", "feminists" and "social justice warriors" are acting like conservatives despite being people who are generally against them.

They also tend to have very aggressive behaviors, likely due to the possibly the fact they they are the result of 1990's, where it was commonplace to think that sending your children to day cares is healthy. Sadly this turned out to be false, which then resulted in the complete opposite. (source: https://www.psychologytoday.com/article ... e-day-care )

So what I'm trying to get across here, Tollorin, is that the left wing, while expressing a very noble and kind cause, is being corrupted and tainted by the lunatic acts of these people, who happen to be part of the left wing, who spent most of their lives inside day cares; desperately being consumed by a loneliness and no childhood.

This was, of course, inspired by, you guessed it, a Paul Joseph Watson video. Though this time I did my research and fond out where he got his sources.



I hope this explains my point about the left wing. I currently identify myself in neither wings, just so you know.
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27 Dec 2016, 9:14 pm

Like I told my liberal mother who is all butthurt about Trump becoming president; if The Donald and Hillary are the best this nation can dredge up then we're getting what we as a nation deserve. I have no idea what Trump will be like because he's never held office so I have nothing to measure him by. I summarily dismiss all campaign promises that have no past record to back them up with and have never bothered myself to sit though a presidential candidate debate. A few minutes of one now and then but never more than that.

I DID vote for Trump and make no bones about it. I was going to do a "protest vote" for an independent candidate but deiced not to since I am not an optimist but a realist. I've always been this way and have no illusions about white knights or "change" beyond a certain point.

Is Trump "evil"? I think that's a bit far fetched but what the hell, this train was derailed years ago so why not give someone who's not a part of the traditional political circles that derailed it a chance at putting it back on track. I don't know that there's much to lose...


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28 Dec 2016, 1:01 pm

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Some people exaggerate, but he is pretty evil. He's tremendously selfish, and notoriously corrupt. He also has the potential to do a TON of harm. The main issue with liberal media is they exaggerated is racism while underplaying his corruption. Overall he's an idiots whose controlled by his emotions, but he knows how to say things in order to get a reaction he likes, and that's part of how he won the election. The other part is because the forces that wanted Trump in power because they knew he would be pathetic president played uneducated Americans like a fiddle. Russia wanted Trump to win because they knew that unlike Hilary he would be a pushover. Just look at the way he runs his Twitter feed.


Sources please? I'd like to see where you got that information regarding Trump being "evil"



I can't give a specific source because being evil isn't a specific claim. What in particular would you want sourced? It's not hard to find evidence of it.


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28 Dec 2016, 1:09 pm

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Other than that, I think it's safe to say that at least Trump isn't gonna make things worse in the middle-east, unlike Hilary.


In Dubai right now, The Middle East doesn't have problem with Hillary. Russia does because unlike Trump she actually has the guts to stand up to Putin. The supposed trouble Hillary would cause in the Middle East is just Russia's proxy war with the US.


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28 Dec 2016, 5:32 pm

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Other than that, I think it's safe to say that at least Trump isn't gonna make things worse in the middle-east, unlike Hilary.


In Dubai right now, The Middle East doesn't have problem with Hillary. Russia does because unlike Trump she actually has the guts to stand up to Putin. The supposed trouble Hillary would cause in the Middle East is just Russia's proxy war with the US.


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