Stop saying identity politics caused Trump
No. The earth is warming, and it is "extremely likely" (>95% probability) to be because of human activities. It will cause increasingly extreme weather patterns, along with other deleterious effects. This is a fact:
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-repor ... _FINAL.pdf
When the sky starts falling, I'll listen to chicken little.
The IPCC, with its manufactured data, policy-driven reports and dubious predictions, is about as credible as Bernie Madoff.
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Next, he could do as he hinted he would do earlier this month (when he was still President-elect) and make health care truly universal.
After that, either respect the science of climate change or at least don't try to preempt state laws like those of California designed to combat it, while refraining from doing stuff that would make things harder for minorities. Continue to try to work across the board with minorities, listen to our concerns, give us the opportunity to get ahead in life, even if it's in a more conservative flavor.
I actually wouldn't have that much of a problem with him if he does the above.
Hopefully you're in for a pleasant surprise then. Though I wouldn't hold my breath regarding climate change until there's consensus on exactly what effect humans have and whether it's something which requires correction. The best you can hope for on that front is continued funding into research and studies.
I believe that Trump's legacy will be more positive than negative, though I'll also be judging him by how he chooses to deal with the UK. He's making the right noises, but he's not delivered anything yet.
So tit-for-tat because partisanship?
What I'm saying is, actions have consequences.
And what I'm saying is that "an eye for an eye" just leaves everyone scrambling around in the dark.
Very true.
Yet at the same time, are liberals just supposed to forget the past? Should conservatives be allowed to continue believing they were right about Obama? I want conservatives to concede that they were wrong about Obama, and that birtherism and the tea bagger party were completely wrong.
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Next, he could do as he hinted he would do earlier this month (when he was still President-elect) and make health care truly universal.
After that, either respect the science of climate change or at least don't try to preempt state laws like those of California designed to combat it, while refraining from doing stuff that would make things harder for minorities. Continue to try to work across the board with minorities, listen to our concerns, give us the opportunity to get ahead in life, even if it's in a more conservative flavor.
I actually wouldn't have that much of a problem with him if he does the above.
Hopefully you're in for a pleasant surprise then. Though I wouldn't hold my breath regarding climate change until there's consensus on exactly what effect humans have and whether it's something which requires correction. The best you can hope for on that front is continued funding into research and studies.
I believe that Trump's legacy will be more positive than negative, though I'll also be judging him by how he chooses to deal with the UK. He's making the right noises, but he's not delivered anything yet.
So tit-for-tat because partisanship?
What I'm saying is, actions have consequences.
And what I'm saying is that "an eye for an eye" just leaves everyone scrambling around in the dark.
Very true.
Yet at the same time, are liberals just supposed to forget the past? Should conservatives be allowed to continue believing they were right about Obama? I want conservatives to concede that they were wrong about Obama, and that birtherism and the tea bagger party were completely wrong.
I want you lot to ditch the partisan approach to politics and throw your support behind candidates based solely on the policies, but I'd probably have more luck teaching a pig to fly.
For most of my adult life, I voted for the Liberal Democrats for a variety of reasons, the main two being their proven track record as administrators at the local level and their relatively moderate stance on issues which Labour and the tories take to uncomfortable extremes. In the most recent election, I voted UKIP because they were the sole party who were willing to address issues which the other parties were wilfully ignoring. Like many Brits, I recognised that the only way to force my government to hear my voice was via the ballot box. It cannot be underestimated just how profound an effect popular support for UKIP's policies in the last election has had on our nation and how it is governed.
The same story has been played out in the US, with Trump's rise to power in near-perfect alignment with the wholesale rejection of the forced globalist elitism that is exemplified by the EU. Obama promised change - Trump, I believe, will deliver it, though it won't be to everyone's liking. Trump also represents a rejection of divisive identity politics, which would have probably been sufficient to gain my vote were I eligible to cast one.
Were I you, I'd spend less time worrying about what conservatives do or do not believe, pay attention to what Trump actually manages to achieve whilst in office and judge him accordingly.
The Deplorables had quite enough of being disdained and betrayed by the left progressive liberals. Look where Hillary lost big-time. In the Heartland. Hillary won in the large metropolitan areas mostly and the East Coast, the Left Coast and in a few midwestern metro areas like Chicago
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Next, he could do as he hinted he would do earlier this month (when he was still President-elect) and make health care truly universal.
After that, either respect the science of climate change or at least don't try to preempt state laws like those of California designed to combat it, while refraining from doing stuff that would make things harder for minorities. Continue to try to work across the board with minorities, listen to our concerns, give us the opportunity to get ahead in life, even if it's in a more conservative flavor.
I actually wouldn't have that much of a problem with him if he does the above.
Hopefully you're in for a pleasant surprise then. Though I wouldn't hold my breath regarding climate change until there's consensus on exactly what effect humans have and whether it's something which requires correction. The best you can hope for on that front is continued funding into research and studies.
I believe that Trump's legacy will be more positive than negative, though I'll also be judging him by how he chooses to deal with the UK. He's making the right noises, but he's not delivered anything yet.
So tit-for-tat because partisanship?
What I'm saying is, actions have consequences.
And what I'm saying is that "an eye for an eye" just leaves everyone scrambling around in the dark.
Very true.
Yet at the same time, are liberals just supposed to forget the past? Should conservatives be allowed to continue believing they were right about Obama? I want conservatives to concede that they were wrong about Obama, and that birtherism and the tea bagger party were completely wrong.
I want you lot to ditch the partisan approach to politics and throw your support behind candidates based solely on the policies, but I'd probably have more luck teaching a pig to fly.
For most of my adult life, I voted for the Liberal Democrats for a variety of reasons, the main two being their proven track record as administrators at the local level and their relatively moderate stance on issues which Labour and the tories take to uncomfortable extremes. In the most recent election, I voted UKIP because they were the sole party who were willing to address issues which the other parties were wilfully ignoring. Like many Brits, I recognised that the only way to force my government to hear my voice was via the ballot box. It cannot be underestimated just how profound an effect popular support for UKIP's policies in the last election has had on our nation and how it is governed.
The same story has been played out in the US, with Trump's rise to power in near-perfect alignment with the wholesale rejection of the forced globalist elitism that is exemplified by the EU. Obama promised change - Trump, I believe, will deliver it, though it won't be to everyone's liking. Trump also represents a rejection of divisive identity politics, which would have probably been sufficient to gain my vote were I eligible to cast one.
Were I you, I'd spend less time worrying about what conservatives do or do not believe, pay attention to what Trump actually manages to achieve whilst in office and judge him accordingly.
If Trump can provide either affordable or free health care to all Americans, I'd be impressed. So far, I will be critical of what I dislike about him and his minions.
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I'm sure they're getting right on that.
That's the point. THEY'RE NOT!! !
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While at it, if an African warlord could provide water to all Africans, I'd be equally impressed. I mean, it's achievable, right?
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While at it, if an African warlord could provide water to all Africans, I'd be equally impressed. I mean, it's achievable, right?
Yes, though with both Trump and the hypothetical warlord, neither good deed absolves a bad leader of everything else. After all Hitler built the Autobahn, and was behind Volkswagen, but he'll rightfully be remembered for fascism and the Holocaust.
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I'm aware of this. I was being facetious (lost on more than one person, it would seem).
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I'm aware of this. I was being facetious (lost on more than one person, it would seem).
If that's directed at me, my only defense is that I'm an Aspie, thus wit and sarcasm often go over my head.
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He'd go down in history.
Considering the forces he'd need to contend with in order to do so, I'm inclined to agree. It would be a legendary achievement.
Not going to happen, of course. I don't think the US is ready to have its own NHS.
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