Why do some men hate intelligent women?
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Why do some men hate intelligent women?
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Needledicks are easily emasculated.
It's the thing you swallow along with a big swig of kool-aid. It's mostly a decoy to trick you into sipping the kool-aid.
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Society tells men "If a women beats you at anything, it makes you a pathetic loser."
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Overall, this is part of a larger social problem. Men aren't allowed to show any sign of weakness. "That ain't macho bro."
This is bad for women too. Lots of women want to be with a sweet guy,but our society doesn't want men to be sweet.
Capitalism and sensitivity are opposed to one another.
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So...they're smart I guess. I never considered that well or understood why intelligence in itself is considered an attractive trait in a woman. Higher intelligence might actually be a turn-off for me sometimes instead of the opposite. Besides that, I actually would prefer a woman who was a bit "stupid" if we're talking about her liking to shop or watch sexy TV. It makes them more appealing and "hot" in my eyes.
But reiterating my point in the first sentence above, I never understood why intelligence, at least in itself, is so over-valued. I guess there can be a few other traits that all "good" people appreciate, but I feel is being over-valued.
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But reiterating my point in the first sentence above, I never understood why intelligence, at least in itself, is so over-valued. I guess there can be a few other traits that all "good" people appreciate, but I feel is being over-valued.
I guess it depends on what type of topics one wishes to spend the rest of their life discussing, and in how much depth. Personally I really appreciate having found someone who can understand things I find interesting in depth, and who can provide a similar depth of knowledge with the topics she finds interesting - even better, where our interests overlap we can each provide a different perspective without one overwhelming the other by sheer mass.
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SOME men. Good thing you included that qualifier.
I was married to an intelligent woman for 34 years, and she just passed away 3 weeks ago. She was the perfect complement to me in solving problems - when I with my 145 IQ couldn't figure something out, she with her 125 IQ could - and vice versa. She even taught me patience when trying to explain things to her, and had patience when she was trying to explain to me. There will never be another one like her.
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I was married to an intelligent woman for 34 years, and she just passed away 3 weeks ago. She was the perfect complement to me in solving problems - when I with my 145 IQ couldn't figure something out, she with her 125 IQ could - and vice versa. She even taught me patience when trying to explain things to her, and had patience when she was trying to explain to me. There will never be another one like her.
Yet you reduced her to a number.
IQ is bollocks.
She may have had a lower IQ than you but she held more in her mind, held you together.
Sorry, I'm a dick, apologies.
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"If you don't buy IQ research you might as well throw away all the rest of psychology, and the reason for that is that the psychologists, first of all, who developed intelligence testing were among the early psychologists who instantiated the statistical techniques that all psychologists use to verify and test all of their hypotheses."
But.... who knows.... Daryl Bem was able to use sound research to verify ESP, completely above board and by the rules, and that set off a firestorm of critical review into the soundness of the methods used to date. I think the procedural methods in psychology are still going through the revolution that came as a consequence.
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A high IQ doesn't equate to a high quality person.
It measures an aspect of a person.
As a person with high IQ who spent most of his life getting beaten with an ugly stick for it, I'd put it a little bit differently.
Our world is conformity obsessed, partly for pragmatic reasons and also partly because - any part of you that dangles outside another person's zone of capacities seems like it doesn't exist. That creates gaps in a persons demeanor that are jarring. Highly intelligent people look crazy to people who are less intelligent and often are treated like they're crazy.
The other part that I think people really get wrong is "Hey - if you're so smart you can understand what we're talking about, or why we're talking about, so you could fit in if you weren't on such a high horse". I wouldn't agree with that notion, ie. smarter but not *that* much smarter. Most people's social habits, their idea of what thought should flow after the next, is such a continual compounding of experience that trying to replicate that, as a person who had a different neural development, is next to impossible. An intelligent person will easily be in a conversation and realize very quickly that even if what they're saying is on-topic it won't be going in the direction of flow of what everyone else was saying, and if everyone else is particularly catholic about conformity that person is very quickly going to be ostracized as not belonging in that group.
I'm also going to suggest something else - people with lower IQ may very well have higher processing horsepower. They might have less processing altitude but if it comes to a task or procedure that requires essentially beating your head into a wall from 9 to 5 and for 10 units of effort getting 1 or 2 units of result - they seem to have far more endurance for that kind of thing. I think that loss of mental endurance is a price that can be paid for intelligence. Also, one of the worst things as a guy, having a more vivid sense of consequences makes you a 'p****' in the eyes of guys whose brains aren't holding them back from doing macho 'Run in front of the predator to show your courage' type of behavior; it's not that an intelligent guy can't play dumb and macho enough to be sexy - he just has a lot more in the way of alarm systems to fight his way through.
For women this has to be terrible because, higher intelligence means their emotions will be more cerebral, women are judged quite often on how feeling or emotionally connected they are, and if they're more analytic I'm sure they get pounded on for it.
Seems like in a lot of ways though, at the end of the day, male or female, the center of the intelligence bell-curve seems to love dumb, exciting, and athletic. Any of those three you're missing tends to weigh against you. It's part of why I really also think its almost inhuman to judge people on their relationship life - it's something that I don't think humans have much cognitive control over, rather we're dragged by and large for a ride by the older parts of our neural wiring and a lot of the pitch to that has more to do with sort of a natural eugenics than choosing the best person, or even necessarily a good person for that matter. If someone ends up with a wonderful partner, wonderful kids, a great home-life - more power to ya. Ending up single, in and of itself doesn't necessarily say anything good or bad and I think that's one of the more critical challenges I had to face - really accepting that to be true rather than just a nice thing to tell myself.
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A high IQ doesn't equate to a high quality person.
It measures an aspect of a person.
As a person with high IQ who spent most of his life getting beaten with an ugly stick for it, I'd put it a little bit differently.
Our world is conformity obsessed, partly for pragmatic reasons and also partly because - any part of you that dangles outside another person's zone of capacities seems like it doesn't exist. That creates gaps in a persons demeanor that are jarring. Highly intelligent people look crazy to people who are less intelligent and often are treated like they're crazy.
The other part that I think people really get wrong is "Hey - if you're so smart you can understand what we're talking about, or why we're talking about, so you could fit in if you weren't on such a high horse". I wouldn't agree with that notion, ie. smarter but not *that* much smarter. Most people's social habits, their idea of what thought should flow after the next, is such a continual compounding of experience that trying to replicate that, as a person who had a different neural development, is next to impossible. An intelligent person will easily be in a conversation and realize very quickly that even if what they're saying is on-topic it won't be going in the direction of flow of what everyone else was saying, and if everyone else is particularly catholic about conformity that person is very quickly going to be ostracized as not belonging in that group.
I'm also going to suggest something else - people with lower IQ may very well have higher processing horsepower. They might have less processing altitude but if it comes to a task or procedure that requires essentially beating your head into a wall from 9 to 5 and for 10 units of effort getting 1 or 2 units of result - they seem to have far more endurance for that kind of thing. I think that loss of mental endurance is a price that can be paid for intelligence. Also, one of the worst things as a guy, having a more vivid sense of consequences makes you a 'p****' in the eyes of guys whose brains aren't holding them back from doing macho 'Run in front of the predator to show your courage' type of behavior; it's not that an intelligent guy can't play dumb and macho enough to be sexy - he just has a lot more in the way of alarm systems to fight his way through.
For women this has to be terrible because, higher intelligence means their emotions will be more cerebral, women are judged quite often on how feeling or emotionally connected they are, and if they're more analytic I'm sure they get pounded on for it.
Seems like in a lot of ways though, at the end of the day, male or female, the center of the intelligence bell-curve seems to love dumb, exciting, and athletic. Any of those three you're missing tends to weigh against you. It's part of why I really also think its almost inhuman to judge people on their relationship life - it's something that I don't think humans have much cognitive control over, rather we're dragged by and large for a ride by the older parts of our neural wiring and a lot of the pitch to that has more to do with sort of a natural eugenics than choosing the best person, or even necessarily a good person for that matter.
Whatever.
[quote="techstepgeneration"]For women this has to be terrible because, higher intelligence means their emotions will be more cerebral, women are judged quite often on how feeling or emotionally connected they are, and if they're more analytic I'm sure they get pounded on for it. [quote]
This is very true. I see it more in my intelligent female friends, than in myself. I've learned to grease the wheels a bit. They say to me, "why can't I fit in? Why don't other women like me?"
That doesn't mean he's stupid.
Just re-read your post sly. You are saying you have hope because so many guys do end up with educated women.
Stalemate.
No . Them have a high school education isn't the reason they get women. Those labor jobs pay well. Lumberjack and saw mill jobs pay well but they are super dangerous and have lots of injuries compared to other jobs. I don't make much but I won't die or lose a limb at a retail store. Not that I'd be able to handle those jobs anyways I'd crack.
This is bad for women too. Lots of women want to be with a sweet guy,but our society doesn't want men to be sweet.
Capitalism and sensitivity are opposed to one another.
Women say that but they really don't like weak men. Soon as a man cries or talks about his emotions women say he lacks confidence and find him unattractive.
Same way men find thin women attractive, but say fat women are just as attractive.
Women tend to prefer tough guys with confidence, not pansies with emotion who dislike violence. It is society but women are half of society and are just as guilty of pushing the macho man idea as men. ive actually met more men who are accepting of me not being manly then women who are. Men I meet don't tell me I lack confidence for sharing my emotions and weakness.
