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11 Mar 2018, 1:04 pm

^ According to bethannny you'd be the only white man in all of Canada.

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11 Mar 2018, 1:17 pm

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^ According to bethannny you'd be the only white man in all of Canada.

I’ve lived all over Canada and its not like that at all. Cities are much more multicultural than rural areas and there are always places like “little Italy” or Chinatown, but it’s always been that way. Some tourist areas have signs in languages other than English or French. Canada was built on immigration.

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11 Mar 2018, 1:39 pm

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^ According to bethannny you'd be the only white man in all of Canada.

Last province I was in was Alberta and it certainly wasn't wall to wall Asians, Indians, and Paks. It's now been over 10 years but I doubt it's as bad as bethannny makes it out to be.
The US was built on immigration, too, otherwise we'd all be Native American.

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11 Mar 2018, 1:52 pm

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^ According to bethannny you'd be the only white man in all of Canada.

He certainly might be in Toronto suburbs. You have said you have only been to Alberta, that is a small province by population and it's demographics are different then where I live but it too is changing rapidly. White's are becoming a minority in many cities and even small-ish towns in Canada. You can check stats if you don't believe it. It's the way it is is and it's not just exaggerated thinking.

And like any other country with mass third world immigration there is ethnic tension between other ethnicities. The Ontario government wanted to allow Islamic prayer in public schools that was met with huge back lash. Not from whites but from Sikhs who were absolutely enraged that Muslims were receiving special treatment.

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11 Mar 2018, 2:02 pm

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^ According to bethannny you'd be the only white man in all of Canada.

Most Canadians don't live in ''rural areas''. And places like Richmond and Kelowna British Columbia have multiple signs, even street signs in Chinese in practically the whole two cities. In Ontario there are Toronto suburbs with street signs in Arabic and it isn't just tiny sections of the cities either. Would you like me to take pictures?

Canada was built and settled by Europeans with even some help from the aboriginals. French Canadians have been here for more than 500 years before Canada ''was'' Canada and many of them have Indian blood (this can not be denied). So to write every white person off as '' just another immigrant'' is bogus. You know better than that.

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11 Mar 2018, 2:10 pm

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I'm an American. I would feel very comfortable living in Canada. I have been there quite a few times.

I've been to Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver, and Ottawa. French (for Montreal, though English is well understood), and English are the predominant languages. There might be small, segregated pockets here and there---but the cities haven't been "overrun" with immigrants--not by a longshot

Your Tim Horton's is much better than our Dunkin Donuts. Otherwise, you folks have the same fast food joints, and have nice ethnic restaurants, too.

Living in the Canadian Prairies is probably like living in the American Prairies.

It wouldn't be much of an adjustment for me to move to Canada. But I really can't become a citizen--unless I marry a Canadian, or I get a master's in something which Canadians find useful. An MSW wouldn't do it. There are enough Canadian social workers.

Not true. These cities are majority minority. Foreign language signs are in entire suburbs and even cities not just ''China Towns'' etc.

Canada has it's own fast food and restaurant chains and many united states restaurants and fast food places do not exist in Canada. There is no olive garden in Canada, no Denny's (in the majority of cities). Where are the Harvey's in the U.S? The east Side Mario's, the Boston pizza's or the Second Cup's? those are some of the most popular places in
Canada to eat and don't exist in the U.S.

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11 Mar 2018, 2:29 pm

The places you mentioned are very similar to places in the US. They just have different names.

There is a substantial Chinatown in Toronto—but not nearly as large as the ones in NYC. Yonge St and Queen St is not teeming with foreign-language signs.

Of course, there are donar places and all that. And certain blocks might have foreign-language signs—like in NYC.
And there are ethnic enclaves, sure.

Mississauga has many immigrants from all over—perhaps the majority of the population—but foreign-language signs do not predominate. It’s straight suburbia for the most part. US-type suburban sprawl.

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11 Mar 2018, 2:37 pm

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The places you mentioned are very similar to places in the US.

There is a substantial Chinatown in Toronto—but not nearly as large as the ones in NYC. Yonge St and Queen St is not teeming with foreign-language signs.

Of course, there are donar places and all that. And certain blocks might have foreign-language signs—like in NYC.
And there are ethnic enclaves, sure.

Mississauga has many immigrants from all over—perhaps the majority of the population—but foreign-language signs do not predominate. It’s straight suburbia for the most part.

The Chinese or Cantonese language signs are mostly a western Canadian phenomenon in B.C - the strongest being in Richmond, Vancouver and Kelowna. And there are plenty of Arabic language plaza's and signs in Mississauga - I was
just there yesterday. These cities reflect the reality of Canada's changed demographic.

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11 Mar 2018, 3:05 pm

I guess it's a matter of perception.

I've never experienced a really "foreign" vibe at any time while I've been in Canada. My wife has relatives who live in Mississauga. They are immigrants from Trinidad and Tobago. Their children are the spitting image of typical Canadian children--except for their dark skin. They speak with Canadian Raising and all that. Their assimilation into Canadian culture is complete--except I'm not sure how much they like hockey.

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11 Mar 2018, 3:24 pm

I’d like to see the Toronto street signs in Arabic. Not store signs or billboards, but official street signs.

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11 Mar 2018, 3:41 pm

The street signs in Toronto are all in English.

In Ottawa, they are in French and English.

Every product sold in Canada is presented in both French and English.

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11 Mar 2018, 8:33 pm

Oops, I don’t think i was very clear. I’d like the poster to provide photos, as she offered, of the alleged Arabic language street signs. Not, that I want the current system changed. I don’t believe that there are official Arabic road signs in Toronto or Mississauga.
In Ottawa street names are a mix of English or French, generally English unless its a French surname. But the type of road is listed on the signs in both languages, e.g. Rue Main Street, or Chemin Oak Road. It really confuses my voice operated GPS when I’m there. It only speaks English and mangles the French words!

PS There are Olive Garden and Denny’s restaurants in Canada. And not all Canadians like hockey!

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11 Mar 2018, 8:43 pm

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Ottawa is very different. Yes I know you have diversity up there and it is increasing but it's not like the GTA by any stretch at all. You have the french influence because you're a twin city to Gattineau. I know someone who lives in Gattineau actually she was practically culture shocked when she went to Markham to visit her sister.

P.S there is no Olive Garden in Canada (go and google away) and Denny's are as rare as they come. I never said all Canadians liked Hockey. I don't like it all, I hate Tim Horton's and I refuse to raise vowels.. wait nevermind - I'm going off center here.

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11 Mar 2018, 9:10 pm

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I’ve lived a great part of my life in Toronto/Mississauga and have close family all across southern Ontario. I know that it has changed from the ‘60s. (It was someone else who mentioned hockey and its a pet peeve of mine, the idea that Canadians are practically born with hockey sticks in hand!). I did Google Olive Garden to be certain. I remembered eating at them in Edmonton. Apparently there is one in Burlington, but most are out west. Smaller town Quebec did not used to be diversified at all. Gatineau residents should be used to a variety of cultures with the embassies in Ottawa, and government workers transferred in from across Canada, but if they don’t cross the river, perhaps not. Montreal has a very diverse population with immigrants from Haiti and former French African countries.

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12 Mar 2018, 1:55 am

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You know better than that.

Sounds like me scolding my dog for sh*****g on the floor.
Difference is that he tries to do better.
I try to do WORSE. :twisted:

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12 Mar 2018, 2:17 am

I never said “all Canadians like hockey.” I was alluding more to the fact that hockey is the national sport of Canada.

Many people like hockey in NYC.

What’s wrong with Tim Horton’s, aside from its utter ubiquitousness in Canada? They make nice sandwiches there.

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