The unwelcome revival of 'race science'

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ignoring everyone else helps too.

The people of the Middle East were living in cities back when the people of Europe were living in Mud Huts.

Additionally, the Greeks were living in cities back when Germans and Celts were living in mud huts. Does this mean that Greeks are superior to Germans and Irishmen?

If you are going to be a racist, you might as well go all the way. For example, we might as well say that Malians, Ghanaians and Beninese are superior to other black people because they advanced further than other African ethnic groups did prior to the Colonial Era.

Of course, most racists won't go that far because most racists want to divide people into simplistic groups based on skin color, rather than engage in actual intellectualism.



What is a famous writer? Is a writer famous just because you have heard of him/her? Some authors are more famous in specific places.

For example, Africans consider Chinua Achebe to be a very important writer, though few Westerners have heard of him.

It's also worth noting that Nigeria and India both have a film industry. Bollywood actually produces more films than Hollywood does. Bollywood is a big thing in India, though only a few Westerners care about it.



A couple of months ago, I already explained this with some material from Jared Diamond. You dismissed him as a white supremacist.

Now I know that you were being hypocritical.

Using an opportunistically changing, ill-defined notion of "white" helps, too.

Yep. That's how white supremacy tends to work.

When Allen Ginsberg or Karl Marx enter the conversation, Jews suddenly stop being white.

Whenever Albert Einstein is discussed, Jews magically become Aryan again.

I wasn't being racist.

I was asking the most obvious question.

The evidence of "white superiority" is the fact that when you study most (nearly all) intellectual subjects in college, you will study white people who first thought and developed those ideas.


Historically famous writers like Shakespeare, Hemmingway, Agatha Christie, Charles Dickens ...


I don't know who "Jared Diamond" is, and you're thinking of someone else.

mental ramble to follow- part of the reason henry ford said "history is bunk" is because much of it was written largely by the winners [the people who won the wars and commanded the resources], who more often than not were white. I visited a friend's house who had a rack full of encyclopedias [anybody here remember those?] devoted to suppressed/ignored black history and culture and most notably, inventions. it was an eye opener.
anyways.. there exists a thing among some of the better class of wealthy, called "noblesse oblige" where they feel they have some moral obligation to give back [material benefits] to the less fortunate. presumably this could extend to the cognitively gifted well-off helping those who are not gifted, live better lives. what a world this would be if, instead of arguing who is smarter [and by extension, more exalted and worthy to be haughty and lord it over the rest of us], more of the smarter ones step up to the plate and quietly help other [less gifted] people and not just their own class of beautiful smarties.

According to studies genetic heritability is 40 to 51%, but in some cases is as low as 20%. Overall heritability depends on environmental influences. So children which grow up in similar conditions their parents did end up with IQ heritability nearing 100% whereas children who grow up in conditions worse than their parents did usually score lower whereas children who grow up in conditions better than those their parents grew up in usually score higher than their parents. So all in all, environment is a major factor.

I am making the point that, in theory at least, there is no reason why you can't have tribes/cultures of people with a higher intelligence than others...

Eugenic programs can influence the gene pool...
Unfortunately, this happened in Nazi Germany...

In theory, though it is ethically corrupt and reprehensible, weeding out those with disabilities through sterilisation and euthanasia would "strengthen" the genetic coding of a culture which would implement such a program...
That is without a doubt...
But how many would want to live in a society that abuses its citizens in that way?

As autistic individuals, we would be in extreme danger of falling foul to this principle...
Thank goodness none of us lives in such a fascist political system...

I do think this is pertinent to the discussion...

Of course in western countries college would teach about western artists and thinkers, as they are the ones who influenced western culture. Still, other countries also had their artists and thinkers, we just don't hear much about them as they are not part of western cultures history.

Personally I know a lot of work from Japan that are surpassing what we generally got from Hollywood; Disney can't hope to reach the level of some of the classics of Hayao Miyazaki for example. Not that all Japan works are good, but some are incredible and born of the minds of genius.

I have no doubt that, around the world, there is some incredible artists and thinkers that are almost completely unknown in the western world.

As for the science and technological progress, it's come more from some unique circumstances in history that some so-called "superiority" of the "white race" or whatever.

Also, right now art, the one exposed in museum, as well as architecture, are pretty much dead in the western world, partly from misplaced racist arguments.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ornament_and_Crime

Because people tend to pay attention to, and elevate, the contributions of whites while ignoring the same from other races.

Same thing with men ignoring the contributions of women. IMHO, the Male Ego will never allow women to be as smart as them, no matter the facts. Ditto for whites.

I'm just saying.....

Why "notable history" as you know it is white, and why white people were the inventors of some of the things you mentioned are two different things.

First, why "notable history" is white:

Take a look at this picture of human evolution...



And this one...



And this one...




Now take a look at this painting of Adam and Eve...



And this one...



And this one...



And this painting of Moses...



Now look at what the Ancient Egyptians had to say about what the Israelites looked like.

What do you notice about these images? They are all of white people! And they are also fairly standard of the scenes they represent. But we know that all of human evolution is not actually comprised of white men. Such depictions fail to depict the majority non white population of the world, and women. Why are the majority of such depictions concluded with white males? Why are the majority of depictions of Adam and Eve white, when the story of Adam and Eve is middle eastern, and possibly even African in origin? Why is Moses, a middle eastern man, and his friends, in most depictions, depicted as white?

The answer is, because most of these paintings and drawings were created by white people who tend to only think of white people. You have been told the history of the world according to white men, from a Eurocentric perspective, so of course they are going to focus on things most relevant to them. In compulsory school history books, history usually starts with an emphasis on Ancient Greeks, covers most of the history of Europe since then, and ends with American history from the white man's perspective, and ends with an emphasis on WWII from an American perspective. You are missing entire swaths of knowledge on the history of the rest of the world.

Don't you think there were great thinkers and philosphers from continents other than Europe? There were. Some of them were Asian or Indian and their thoughts and ideas were recorded in writing such that our knowledge of them lives on. Ancient American societies such as the Mayans had writing systems and scholars and certainly philosophers and did have a writing system but most of these codecs were destroyed by European invaders.

In some cultures the teachings of philosophers existed primarily of word of mouth or drawings and symbols, the meaning of which sometimes we can only guess. When you see cave paintings from ancient people, that's often not just art and not as often spiritual in nature of anthropologists sometimes label it, but many times these drawings serve the same purpose as our writing. They record and share important events and information.

Most civilizations have scientists of some sort or another. Even societies the modern world might consider primitive had astronomers who were able to predict celestial events. Understanding the changing sky was important because the position of the stars and other celestial objects in the sky helped determine seasons, and thus helped predict weather patterns and game movement and determine when to plant and harvest and start preparing for winter or floods or the dry season. The Japanese kept records of Earthquakes dating back centuries, and had devices to detect small ones. They engineered large structures that could withstand Earthquakes with magnitudes exceeding 10 and knew their tsunamis were caused by Earthquakes. Mesoamerican civilizations were performing brain surgery when Europeans didn't have the slightest clue on how to operate on someone without killing them. All people have histories and most people have great things in their history, whether you know about it or not.

Why the industrialized world arose among white people does not have a straight answer. It was a collimation of many different factors that set Europeans up to become a dominating factor in the world, but Europe was wracked by plagues, wars, famines and oppressive economic and political environments for centuries before that. But at one point, Egypt was a world power and on the cutting edge of technology. And at one point, Sumer was a powerful nation and on the cutting edge of technology. And at one point, that distinction was held by ancient Indian civilizations, and at one point ancient Chinese civilizations.

But as always, all civilizations eventually fall from grace. It is happening to ours as we speak.

There were sub-Saharan civilizations. Many of them were destroyed in the trans-Atlantic slave trade and by European colonists in Africa. Most Americans know nothing about them because they are not part of standard American history curriculum.

He answers your 'why did white people do everything first...' question quite well, you might want to make yourself familiar if you'd like to stop being mistaken for a white supremacist.

"On both fringe and mainstream media...."

The translation of that phrase is "mostly on U Tube".

On You Tube you see that trend, but you also see anti White Black racists, and you see the "revival" of other "sciences" like "geocentrism", and "flat earthism".

These can all be refuted as well.

The new barrage of worldviews on the internet may seem chaotic, but I see it as a good thing. Through discourse, the real truth will eventually rise to the top.

When all opinions are allowed, the truth will win in the end.

Political correctness will never allow this to happen...