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13 Mar 2018, 4:33 am

No, you also want to remove 100% of free speech, because you want to remove the "free" part. Even if people toe your party line and are free to say so, they are not free to change their minds and say so. Under your proposed model, no one has free speech.


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13 Mar 2018, 4:35 am

I don't know the full policies of AFD but what exactly makes them far right?



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13 Mar 2018, 4:36 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
No, you also want to remove 100% of free speech, because you want to remove the "free" part. Even if people toe your party line and are free to say so, they are not free to change their minds and say so. Under your proposed model, no one has free speech.


We must sacrifice a bit of democracy in order to keep it running.



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13 Mar 2018, 4:36 am

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I don't know the full policies of AFD but what exactly makes them far right?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37274201



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13 Mar 2018, 4:39 am

thinkinginpictures wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
No, you also want to remove 100% of free speech, because you want to remove the "free" part. Even if people toe your party line and are free to say so, they are not free to change their minds and say so. Under your proposed model, no one has free speech.


We must sacrifice a bit of democracy in order to keep it running.


"We must implement totalitarianism to keep people free."

Again with the doublethink.


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13 Mar 2018, 4:41 am

thinkinginpictures wrote:
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I don't know the full policies of AFD but what exactly makes them far right?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37274201


I wouldn't consider them far right, they are opposed to mass immigration and the Islamization of Europe you think that if far right? Do you support banning them? Killing their members and supporters? For what not wanting to have their country given to another people?



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13 Mar 2018, 4:43 am

thinkinginpictures wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
No, you also want to remove 100% of free speech, because you want to remove the "free" part. Even if people toe your party line and are free to say so, they are not free to change their minds and say so. Under your proposed model, no one has free speech.


We must sacrifice a bit of democracy in order to keep it running.

Sounds like another way of saying we need to send dissidents to the gulags for the greater good of the people.


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13 Mar 2018, 4:48 am

Daniel89 wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
I don't know the full policies of AFD but what exactly makes them far right?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37274201


I wouldn't consider them far right, they are opposed to mass immigration and the Islamization of Europe you think that if far right? Do you support banning them? Killing their members and supporters? For what not wanting to have their country given to another people?


I don't care about islam. Actually, I couldn't care less about the immigration issues.

What I do care about is that AFD is supported by Putin. It is being run directly from Kremlin. This is what makes them far right wing, and the reason AFD should be banned and all their members thrown in jail for treason.



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13 Mar 2018, 4:58 am

thinkinginpictures wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
I don't know the full policies of AFD but what exactly makes them far right?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37274201


I wouldn't consider them far right, they are opposed to mass immigration and the Islamization of Europe you think that if far right? Do you support banning them? Killing their members and supporters? For what not wanting to have their country given to another people?


I don't care about islam. Actually, I couldn't care less about the immigration issues.

What I do care about is that AFD is supported by Putin. It is being run directly from Kremlin. This is what makes them far right wing, and the reason AFD should be banned and all their members thrown in jail for treason.


How very Putin of you.



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13 Mar 2018, 5:53 am

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Nazism did not go away after WW2. Fact is, a lot of people continued to be nazis even after the war and the evidences for the genocides was documentet. Actually a lot of the nazis don't just deny holocaust, they admit it and say that it was the "right thing to do".

A growing number of people, and I'm talking everybody from regular working class people to wealthy entrepreneurs, are supporting the nazis.

To avoid EU becoming one big nazi-regime, I suggest the following:

* Death penalty or life-sentences to anyone denying or supporting the holocaust.
* Any member of a proclaimed nazi-organization or organization with nazi-sympathies, should recieve Death Penalty, without the right to appeal.
* Ban on far-right political parties.
* Compulsory Community Service and deprivation of basic civic rights (right to vote, free speech etc.) to anyone supporting far-right political parties.


Okay so Nazis should be killed, what about communists? Communism killed more than Nazism did. What About Muslims or Christians should they be killed too?


Shouldn't people who want to kill other people be executed?... :mrgreen:
What a joke of a thread.... :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

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Because being a prominent anything at the time and not doing so was the sort of thing that lead to unexpectedly comitting suicide with two shots to the back of the head.


I am in agreement...

Also, most people wouldn't have chosen to be tortured and killed as an example to those who would go against the establishment...
It is so easy to judge when one is at home with mom and dad in a safe environment...
Too many people see things in black and white when life is primarily shades of grey...

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But I digress: the point is this as follows: while I'm no fan of Nazi ideology, you're advocating 1984-style thought and speech crimes. Not a fan.


Interesting analogy...
And yes, if I had to meet a Nazi or thinkinginpictures in a dark alley, I'd rather it be the Nazi... :mrgreen:

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At best you are just a very very stupid person at worst you are evil. If someone had wrote the right wing equivalent of this then the thread would already be locked.


Personally, I think he is just a very naughty boy who is playing silly buggers...
Why do you take him so seriously?
What he is saying is absurd...

Letting him affect you emotionally means he wins...
Don't let him win... :wink:



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13 Mar 2018, 5:54 am

Far left and far right are just different sides of the same coin. Many shared goals but different theories on how to get there.



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13 Mar 2018, 5:56 am

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Far left and far right are just different sides of the same coin. Many shared goals but different theories on how to get there.


Yes the horseshoe theory is very true.



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13 Mar 2018, 7:14 am

Pepe wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
But I digress: the point is this as follows: while I'm no fan of Nazi ideology, you're advocating 1984-style thought and speech crimes. Not a fan.


Interesting analogy...
And yes, if I had to meet a Nazi or thinkinginpictures in a dark alley, I'd rather it be the Nazi... :mrgreen:

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At best you are just a very very stupid person at worst you are evil. If someone had wrote the right wing equivalent of this then the thread would already be locked.


Personally, I think he is just a very naughty boy who is playing silly buggers...
Why do you take him so seriously?
What he is saying is absurd...

Letting him affect you emotionally means he wins...
Don't let him win... :wink:


1. Am I evil because I don't like nazis? WTF??!

2. I can barely believe what I am witnessing here... a moderator advocating for bullying.

I'm seriously considering moving out of this thread.



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13 Mar 2018, 7:18 am

You don't have to like nazis. You just can't execute everyone you don't like.


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13 Mar 2018, 7:20 am

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You don't have to like nazis. You just can't execute everyone you don't like.


I never said I wanted everyone I don't like to be executed. Never.



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13 Mar 2018, 7:21 am

thinkinginpictures wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
But I digress: the point is this as follows: while I'm no fan of Nazi ideology, you're advocating 1984-style thought and speech crimes. Not a fan.


Interesting analogy...
And yes, if I had to meet a Nazi or thinkinginpictures in a dark alley, I'd rather it be the Nazi... :mrgreen:

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At best you are just a very very stupid person at worst you are evil. If someone had wrote the right wing equivalent of this then the thread would already be locked.


Personally, I think he is just a very naughty boy who is playing silly buggers...
Why do you take him so seriously?
What he is saying is absurd...

Letting him affect you emotionally means he wins...
Don't let him win... :wink:


1. Am I evil because I don't like nazis? WTF??!

2. I can barely believe what I am witnessing here... a moderator advocating for bullying.

I'm seriously considering moving out of this thread.


You were literally advocating for murder.