What if Jews actually did control the world?

Post Reply New Topic

It's not "the Jews". Though Jews are the most privileged ethnic group in the world by a mile. Israeli lobby groups have masses of power in numerous countries. Zionist Jews have a lot of power. If Jews are against Israel they can be banned from Israel and they will be pretty much shunned in the media.

It's not "the Jews". Though Jews are the most privileged ethnic group in the world by a mile. Israeli lobby groups have masses of power in numerous countries. Zionist Jews have a lot of power. If Jews are against Israel they can be banned from Israel and they will be pretty much shunned in the media.

I doubt it. The situation with Palestine is a land conflict. Additionally, there are many different types of jews and perspectives and traditions vary among them.

First there are different ethnic groups. Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Mizrahi, Persian jews, Ethiopian jews, South African jews, and so on.

Then there are different religious schools of thought. Sometimes these are specific to ethnic groups and sometimes not. For example, Persian jews have a few rituals in common with Islam, for example, their synagogues have ablution basins for washing before prayer, while Ashkenazi and Sephardic synagogues typically do not. Sephardic jews are permitted to eat rice on passover. Ashkenazi jews are not.

A few religious schools of thought. I'm only familiar with Ashkenazi/Sephardic schools of thought as they are often shared.

Rabbinites: This is mainstream judaism. Rabbis are akin to popes and can impose doctrines. In addition to the Torah (the old testament), they have a "oral law" now written down and contained within a large volume of books collectively referred to as the talmud. The talmud contains rabbinical debates, discussions and conclusions as well as the halacha, dietary laws and so on.

There are hasidic and hardei jews (ultra orthodox), and many different sects of them. Breslov, Satmar, Chabad (Lubavitch), and so on, all with varying political stances and philosophies. East coast hasidim..at least in Crown Heights, tend to be very insular and try not to interact much with the gentile world around them, while west coast hasidim are more at ease with their gentile and secular neighbors. Hasidic jews dress distinctly. The men often have untrimmed bears and curls at the side of their heads called peyotes, and dress like 16th century European men, and the women tend to have a particular modest look but not always. Sometimes they appear very secular. Orthodox judaism both hasidic and non hasidic mandate women also cover their heads but most communities permit them to do so using a wig.

Orthodox or general "frum" jews. They are similar to hasidic jews but are perhaps not as tightly bound to a particular rabbi, community or shul.

Orthodox jews and hasidic jews have religious courts called "Beit din". They oversee marriages, divorces, conversions, and things of a religious nature. While the men don't dress as distinctively as haredi jews, they tend to wear office attire as their regular clothing. For example, slacks and a button up shirt, along with a yarmulke and tzitzit (tassels) which may or may not be tucked in.

Modern orthodox. They adhere to many of the same customs as orthodox jews but dress no different than secular individuals aside from the fact that the men wear a yarmulka and may have their tzitzit hanging out if they want to seem particularly pious or stylish. You would probably not be able to distinguish a modern orthodox woman from a

Conservative jews. These jews don't live in secular communities. They probably don't follow all of the customs that hasidic or haredi jews do, and don't dress in a distinctive manner, but they follow most dietary and religious laws.

Reform jews. These are typically secular jews who want some spirituality in their life. They often observe the major holidays but often don't follow dietary laws and other laws. They may marry non jews and often recognize patrilineal descent, in defiance of halacha. For these reasons, conversions done by the conform branch are often not seen as valid by more conservative branches.

There is a sect of judaism other than rabbinical judaism called Karaism or Karaite judaism but it's very small. Karaites do not have the talmud. All of their laws are stated in the torah and they follow paternal descent. Karaite sects can be found in parts of eastern Europe such as Crimea, Egypt, and Israel as well as the U.S. Karaites follow patrilineal descent and were considered heretics by Maimonedes.

Privileged is an individual thing. A Jew is more likely to be privilaged in America. That does not not make the individual Jew automatically privilaged.

They are a tiny percentage of the population yet have high positions in banking and all money institutions, Hollywood, universities, media and lobby groups. But someone like Norman Finkelstein who is critical of Israel is banned from Israel and lost his tenure.

Can you name another ethnic group that has the right to have someone else's home bulldozed down so a new one can be built for them in someone else's country?

The Jews returned to Israel after being forced out by Muslim violence.

Jews being successful is nothing to do with privilege its do with their culture valuing education and not demonising money.

The Jews returned to Israel after being forced out by Muslim violence. Jews being successful is nothing to do with privilege its do with their culture valuing education and not demonising money.

Sephardic Jews
By the end of the Reconquista in 1492, 100,000 Jews converted and 175,000 left in exile as they were forced to either leave or convert under the Spanish inquisition.[1] The expulsions from Spain and Portugal were echoed in Sicily and many Italian states during the sixteenth century. Sicily's Jews suffered expulsion in the summer and autumn of 1492. Naples in turn expelled her Jews in 1497.[2] Sephardi Jews faced great obstacles as France refused Jewish immigrants and the nearest refuge in North Africa was barred to Jews: the Spanish occupied the ports of Algeria and Tunisia, the Portuguese occupied northern Morocco. Furthermore, the independent Sheikhs of the coastal regions refused to grant access to the interior. The Sephardim who reached Morocco were the most fortunate of the exiles to North Africa. The Berber King of Fez, Mulai Muhammed esh-Sheikh, had agreed to let them settle outside the city walls attracting 20,000 refugees alone.[3] As they arrived local Maghrebi Jews welcomed them, paid their ransoms and supplied them with food and clothing despite the cholera Sephardi Jews came with. Even so, life was harsh for Sephardi Jews in North Africa.

Early 20th century

In 1911, Jews from Italy, Greece, Syria, Iraq, Turkey, Egypt and Iran moved to Beirut, expanding the community there with more than 5,000 additional members. Articles 9 and 10 of the 1926 Constitution of Lebanon guaranteed the freedom of religion and provided each religious community, including the Jewish community, the right to manage its own civil matters, including education, and thus the Jewish community was constitutionally protected, a fact that did not apply to other Jewish communities in the region.[14] The Jewish community prospered under the French mandate and Greater Lebanon, exerting considerable influence throughout Lebanon and beyond. They allied themselves with Pierre Gemayel's Phalangist Party (a fascist right wing, Maronite group modelled after similar movements in Italy and Germany, and Franco's Phalangist movement in Spain.) and played an instrumental role in the establishment of Lebanon as an independent state.

During the Greater Lebanon period, two Jewish newspapers were founded, the Arabic language Al-Alam al-Israili (the Israelite World) and the French Le Commerce du Levant, an economic periodical which still publishes (though it is now owned by non-Jews).

The Jewish community of Beirut evolved in three distinct phases.[15] Until 1908, the Jewish population in Beirut grew by migration from the Syrian interior and from other Ottoman cities like Izmir, Salonica, Istanbul, and Baghdad. Commercial growth in the thriving port-city, consular protection, and relative safety and stability in Beirut all accounted for the Jewish migration. Thus, from a few hundred at the beginning of the 19th century, the Jewish community grew to 2,500 by the end of the century, and to 3,500 by the First World War. While the number of Jews grew considerably, the community remained largely unorganized. During this period, the community lacked some of the fundamental institutions such as communal statutes, elected council, welfare and taxation mechanisms. In this period, the most organized and well-known Jewish institution in the city was probably the private Tiferet Israel (The Glory of Israel) boarding-school founded by Zaki Cohen in 1874. The school attracted Jewish students from prosperous families like Shloush (Jaffa), Moyal (Jaffa), and Sassoon (Baghdad). Its founder, influenced by the Ottoman reforms and by local cultural trends, aspired to create a modern yet Jewish school. It offered both secular and strictly Jewish subjects as well as seven languages. It also offered commercial subjects. The school was closed at the beginning of the 20th century due to financial hardships.

The Jews returned to Israel after being forced out by Muslim violence. Jews being successful is nothing to do with privilege its do with their culture valuing education and not demonising money.

Zionist leaders put pressure on to get Jews to 'return' to Israel. Not sure why you support Israel when it was founded on terrorism against the British.

Jews were statistically more educated in medival times than christians, because at those times the deep knowledge of christianity was reserved only for the religious elite, ministers, bishops, etc. While the Jewish bible was taught to every child, meaning the literacy % of Jews was greater. This is accurate historically.

About money, Jews were successful traders/bankers because they loaned with interest. It's not allowed to do that in Christianity as it is considered a sin. When somebody is successful usually there are 2 possible responses: hate/grudge OR the desire to imitate and learn from success. People belonging to the first group often are prone to blind violence.

"They chose to spread across the world."

Another Wrong point. There are genetic and archaeological proofs that place Jews in modern day Israel 2000+ years ago. The final exile was forced by the Roman empire who destroyed the temple of Jerusalem, changed the name of Judea to "Palesteena" and Jerusalem into "Aelia Capitolina" in order to remove any connection Jews had to the ancient land of Israel. Few jews still remained in that land after the Romans had took it and never left.

Israel bulldozes dwellings for the same reason other countries do or would. The structures were unauthorized or violated zoning or code ordinances. The reason you hear about more houses being bulldozed in Israel because people build houses where they know they have not been given permission to, because they feel entitled to build there. Many of the houses that have been bulldozed are actually the houses of orthodox jews. Just recently where I am in the U.S. the city destroyed a tent city but if they were houses they would have bulldozed them. They make people tear down any unpermitted structure and if they don't they will do it for them.