29 Mar 2018, 4:25 pm
29 Mar 2018, 4:41 pm
Mikah wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
When did human ancestors acquire souls?
Don't know.
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
When does a developing fetus acquire a soul?
Hmm... don't know.
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Do people with severe brain damage still have souls ... or does the soul exit the body before the body is technically dead?
I ... don't know.
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Would it be possible for future generations to create a machine with a soul?
...Don't know
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Do aliens have souls?
This one I definitely ... don't know.
Damn!
You are one ignorant bastard!...
29 Mar 2018, 4:58 pm
Pepe wrote:
Damn!
You are one ignorant bastard!...
You are one ignorant bastard!...
I'll let this one slide, mainly because DarthMetaKnight just made a thread linking gun crime to lack of socialist policies. Let us don our capes and fly, our presence is required elsewhere.
29 Mar 2018, 5:38 pm
Mikah wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Damn!
You are one ignorant bastard!...
You are one ignorant bastard!...
I'll let this one slide, mainly because DarthMetaKnight just made a thread linking gun crime to lack of socialist policies. Let us don our capes and fly, our presence is required elsewhere.
Agreed!
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"!...
"Let us fly, my pretties!"<cackle>...
Time to slay the epitome of left wing evil!
29 Mar 2018, 5:53 pm
Spiderpig wrote:
I’m sure you’re well aware that a human being doesn’t just keep removing more and more water from the environment, but on average releases as much water as they drink back to the environment in a few well-known ways. Therefore, simply having a certain population of humans drinking will never cause the Earth to run out of water.
That's what I was getting at
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On the other hand, if the human population were to grow boundlessly, the amount of water sequestered in human bodies would steadily increase and eventually there would be no more water left in the environment, even though the growth would probably be halted much sooner than that by other problems.
Right. I can't imagine that being possible without the planet being overpopulated to an extent that the ice caps all melt and flood us.
Even if it were physically possible to drink all of the water, eventually it will all go back into the water cycle, one way or another.
Although IIRC, they were saying that minute amounts of H2O were evaporating into space through the hole in the ozone layer.
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Similarly, in your scenario, each human sequesters one spirit from the environment for their whole life. If the number of living humans grows without bounds and there’s only a finite number of spirits, eventually there should be no spirits left. I specifically asked what would happen then.
We don't know if they are finite, and we don't know if souls:bodies work on a 1:1 basis. We also have to imagine that there is other life in the universe.
I can only imagine what would happen, and I'm sure it wouldn't be good. Overpopulation is never without consequence.
I heard an interesting theory once, that spirits are not singular things, but more of a fluid-like energy. In essence, some people would have more of this energy than others, and it would all flow to and from a source, like a large pool, which would be God. It kind of creeps me out to think that we're all just God drones, unknowingly interacting with each other for some strange form of entertainment, but it's still interesting to me.
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Being autistic and all that, I only very slowly learned this kind of obstacles usually mean the other person doesn’t want to debate the issue at hand and is more interested in getting me to shut up and leave them alone.
Nah, I honestly wasn't sure what you were getting at. I'm fine with the occasional debate, as long as it's not with trolls.
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31 Mar 2018, 5:50 pm
SabbraCadabra wrote:
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Similarly, in your scenario, each human sequesters one spirit from the environment for their whole life. If the number of living humans grows without bounds and there’s only a finite number of spirits, eventually there should be no spirits left. I specifically asked what would happen then.
We don't know if they are finite, and we don't know if souls:bodies work on a 1:1 basis. We also have to imagine that there is other life in the universe.
I can only imagine what would happen, and I'm sure it wouldn't be good. Overpopulation is never without consequence.
I heard an interesting theory once, that spirits are not singular things, but more of a fluid-like energy. In essence, some people would have more of this energy than others, and it would all flow to and from a source, like a large pool, which would be God. It kind of creeps me out to think that we're all just God drones, unknowingly interacting with each other for some strange form of entertainment, but it's still interesting to me.
The idea of "souls" is a manifestation of creativity on steroids, imo...
Occam's Razor would suggest there is no such thing...
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
A nice little episode a particular Youtube magician went through last year reintegrating fragments and the difference between that work vs working with independent deities. Very interesting stuff:
Copy the link in addition to the youtube insertion...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzrZacDp9fM&t=2s
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13 Apr 2018, 2:45 pm
Mikah wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Mikah wrote:
Pepe wrote:
What is your definition of a "soul"?
The part of us that lives on once our time here is done.
Like a parasite?
Seriously, what is it good for?
It's more like a necessity for the traditional Judeo-monotheisms. We know our bodies don't transform into light and zap into the heavens, we leave them behind, therefore, for an afterlife (and Judgement) to exist, a part of us not seen or totally understood must make the journey there.
Wishful thinking doesn't make it so...
Some people with existential anxiety desperately look for an emotional crutch to satiate their emotional needs to gain emotional stability...
Most people can mature emotionally when confronted with the realities of life...
The problem is, some hold others back from achieving philosophical enlightenment...
Religious beliefs are primarily there for cocooning children from the harsh realities of life...
This naive belief system/mental-context is the metaphorical garden of Eden, and through "eating the fruit" of knowledge/sexual-awareness during puberty/adolescence, that innocence is lost, and the individual is confronted with the brutality of the real world...
Some cope by turning to denial of truth/reality...
This is an evolution inspired phenomenon which helped pre-scientific enlightenment but is an obsolete psychological coping mechanism these days...
But obviously, it is effective for a significant number of people even now...
In a nutshell:
You are living in the past man...
Errm...
No offence intended...
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